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Offline caldera

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trouble killing the new M4
« on: May 15, 2010, 05:18:36 PM »
Been using the Hurri IID to kill tanks and have been fairly successful in it.  That changed with the new M4 versions.  They seem to just shrug off rounds that would hurt the Firefly and keep on going.   Anyone else having this problem?  How tough is the armor on top of the turret?  Is it operator error, or did someone put 40mm paintballs in by mistake?  :headscratch:

This is just one instance, but it has happened on the new M4s from the get-go:

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Yes, most of my approaches are a little shallow, but no rounds bounce off and I counted at least 8 that hit the top of the turret.   
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 05:43:17 PM »
Been using the Hurri IID to kill tanks and have been fairly successful in it.  That changed with the new M4 versions.  They seem to just shrug off rounds that would hurt the Firefly and keep on going.   Anyone else having this problem?

Not me. I killed 9 of them so far, and don't find them more difficult to kill than the old Firefly. (Which never used to be a particular easy kill for the Hurri D anyway).
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2010, 05:51:48 PM »
Not me. I killed 9 of them so far, and don't find them more difficult to kill than the old Firefly. (Which never used to be a particular easy kill for the Hurri D anyway).
To disable a Sherman, aim for the hull top right behind the turret... the turret itself is more diffcult to penetrate.
 


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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2010, 06:36:01 PM »
I killed an M4 with one shot from a B25 the other day (first time for me :) ) - the hit was on the very back of the right hand side armour, not on the top.
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2010, 09:01:24 PM »
Not me. I killed 9 of them so far, and don't find them more difficult to kill than the old Firefly. (Which never used to be a particular easy kill for the Hurri D anyway).
To disable a Sherman, aim for the hull top right behind the turret... the turret itself is more diffcult to penetrate.

Thanks for the tip.  Will aim there from now on. 
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 09:08:32 PM »
And another one: Try to dive as steep as possible. That's easier said than done, because from cockpit it's usually looking steeper than it really is. Most of your dives had been around 45°. For a better effect, try to get 60° - from cockpit, that almost seems like vertical. (Not that I am able to set up my attack runs that well all the time, particularly against moving targets i rarely do - but I really try.)

BTW, our fight in the canyon 2 nights ago was actually my first MA Hurri D vs Hurri D duel ever :)
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2010, 09:16:01 PM »
And another one: Try to dive as steep as possible. That's easier said than done, because from cockpit it's usually looking steeper than it really is. Most of your dives had been around 45°. For a better effect, try to get 60° - from cockpit, that almost seems like vertical. (Not that I am able to set up my attack runs that well all the time, particularly against moving targets i rarely do - but I really try.)

BTW, our fight in the canyon 2 nights ago was actually my first MA Hurri D vs Hurri D duel ever :)

Steep dives are pretty scary in that crate, but I will work on it.

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That wasn't much of a duel.  I vastly underestimated my opponent and got royally pwned.   :lol

BTW Lusche, what is your convergence set at?

« Last Edit: May 15, 2010, 09:20:03 PM by caldera »
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 09:23:30 PM »


BTW Lusche, what is your convergence set at?


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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2010, 09:23:57 PM »
BTW Lusche, what is your convergence set at?

300

I was almost sure I had it at 250, but I just checked it in hangar... it's really 300. Odd.
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 09:28:25 PM »
I have mine at 300 as well.  That's caused a few impromptu tree trimmings.  :uhoh
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 09:31:38 PM »
That's caused a few impromptu tree trimmings.  :uhoh

That's the standard way for Hurri D's to die.
Just look at the numbers: Last tour the D killed a total of 104 Panzer IV's, but had 109 deaths by Panzer IV's. You can bet the overwhelming majority was not actively shot down by those tanks ;)
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 10:22:33 PM »
That's the standard way for Hurri D's to die.
Just look at the numbers: Last tour the D killed a total of 104 Panzer IV's, but had 109 deaths by Panzer IV's. You can bet the overwhelming majority was not actively shot down by those tanks ;)


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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2010, 10:43:30 PM »
They arnt hard to kill, just have to know where to shot them. I kill them in 1 shot sometimes 2.  :devil
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 10:45:20 PM »
my new m4 dies just fine. :cry about scared myself adjusting aim with finger on the trigger. what a noob. :D
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Re: trouble killing the new M4
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 11:49:50 PM »
i seriously havent encountered a single problem with the M4A3s...YET :D
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