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Offline Eagleclaw

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Some suggestions
« on: May 16, 2010, 09:39:36 PM »
I know that there are plane sets that are in dire need of more planes, but the Japanese seems like the eaiest to complete first. I'd like to make a few suggestions.....

The Kawasaki KI-100 saw quite a bit of late war action and was fairly important in last ditch attempts from Japan, it would be amazing to have it, here are the specifications...

Crew: 1
Length: 8.82 m (28 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 12.00 m (39 ft 4 in)
Height: 3.75 m (12 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 20 m² (215 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,525 kg (5,567 lb)
Loaded weight: 3,495 kg (7,705 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Mitsubishi Ha 112-II radial engine, 1,120 kW (1,500 hp) at take off
Maximum speed: 580 km/h (313 kn, 360 mph) at 6,000 m (19,700 ft)
Cruise speed: 400 km/h (217 kn, 249 mph)
Range: 2,200 km (1,189 nmi, 1,367 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,000 m (36,090 ft)
Climb to 5,000 m (16,400 ft): 6 min
Armament

Guns: 2 × 20 mm fuselage-mounted Ho-5 cannons, and 2 × 12.7 mm (.50 in) wing-mounted Ho-103 machine guns

The KI-43.....

Crew: One
Length: 8.92 m (29 ft 3⅜ in)
Wingspan: 10.84 m (35 ft 6¾ in)
Height: 3.27 m (10 ft 8¾in)
Wing area: 21.4 m² (230.4 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,910 kg (4,211 lb)
Loaded weight: 2,590 kg (5,710 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 2,925 kg (6,450 ln)
Powerplant: 1× Nakajima Ha-115 radial engine, 858 kW (1,150 hp)
Maximum speed: 530 km/h (286 knots, 329 mph) at 4,000 m (13,125 ft)
Cruise speed: 440 km/h
Range: 1,760 km (952 nmi, 1095 mi)
Ferry range: 3,200 km (1,730 nmi, 1,990 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,200 m (36,750 ft)
Wing loading: 121 kg/m² (24.8 lb/sq ft)

Guns: 2 × fixed, forward-firing 12.7 mm (.50 in) Ho-103 machine guns in the cowl with 250 rpg
Bombs: 2 × 250 kg (551 lb) bombs

And lastly, the Kawanishi H8K... Which was used as both a troop transport and a heavy 9for the Japanese) bomber  :D
I Figure that since you can spawn PT boats from CVs, why not be able to spawn flying boats as well? It could make things interesting, as it had a decent defense with a barrage of 20mms and 7.7 mms, and often enough, there are plenty of enemy planes around during a CV strike, which would possibly make you resort to the faithful LVT, or depending on where you are, M3 or C47. Here are the specs...

Crew: 10
Length: 28.15 m (92 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 38.00 m (124 ft 8 in)
Height: 9.15 m (30 ft)
Wing area: 160 m² (1,721 ft²)
Empty weight: 18,380 kg (40,436 lb)
Loaded weight: 24,500 kg (53,900 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 32,500 kg (71,500 lb)
Powerplant: 4× Mitsubishi Kasei 22 radial engines, 1,380 kW (1,850 hp) each
Maximum speed: 465 km/h (290 mph)
Range: 7,150 km (4,440 mi)
Service ceiling: 8,760 m (28,740 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.1 m/s (1,600 ft/min)
Wing loading: 153 kg/m² (31 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.22 kW/kg (0.14 hp/lb)
5 × 20 mm Type 99 cannon (one each in bow, dorsal, and tail turrets, plus one each in two waist blisters)
5 × 7.7 mm (.303 in) Type 97 machine guns in fuselage hatches
Bombs: 2 × 800 kg (1,764 lb) torpedoes or 1,000 kg (2,205 lb) of bombs

Thanks  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 09:42:24 PM »


The Kawanishi flyin' boat  :cheers:



The Ki-100



The Ki-43
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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 10:05:01 PM »
Sadly, the H8K falls into the same category as the B-29.  Do you want that one aircraft, or 5-10 other aircraft instead?

There was a very nice thread about this aircraft years ago.  I have lots of saved images from it covering things like arcs of fire, loadouts and interior photos.
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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 10:10:30 PM »
I'm looking for both quantity AND quality, if that means no Kawanishi Flying Boat, as much as it pains me, so be it, I would just like to see the Japanese selection of planes filled so that we can start definitively working on the Russian and Misc. plane selections. I will admit, I do enjoy looking at the H8K, its a beaut :aok
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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 11:27:56 PM »
In my opinion:  KI-43 = good addition.    If a flying boat was added I'd like to see one added, although if I had to choose one I'd probably go with PBY.   The KI-100 I'd say no because it's initial missions and successes in the war were in the role of B-29 interceptor...since we won't ever see the B-29 we should never see a contemporary interceptor just to keep things historically inaccurate.

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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 12:30:28 AM »
You don't need the B-29 to have an interceptor. There are plenty of interceptor planes in the game that had equal if not less action, such as the Ta-152.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 12:35:59 AM »
The Ki-100 is a Ki-61.

It won't perform any better, for the most part.

It also was not used in great numbers and did not see all that much action. Its first flight was in February of 1945*, but it was essentially a 1943 airframe that had no engine. There were 275 engine-less Ki-61 airframes modified to carry radial engines. These were the Ki-100s.

This is one of a number of planes that has an urban legend status. You check the facts rather than just reading the hyperbole, and it's just the same as the Ki-61 it came from.


* = Note, first flight, NOT even production, distribution to units, practicing, or combat, just first flight ever.

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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 12:52:28 AM »
Be fair Krusty, it was a radial engined Ki-61-II of 1944 vintage.

But yes, perfomancewise it was nothing special other than being pretty reliable at a time when more modern Japanese fighters were not.  In AH the Ki-84 and N1K2-J are likely to remain the best Japanese fighters no matter what is added.
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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 01:37:13 AM »
they can  only carry little more than a couple of hand grenades for ords and except for the h8k (which would only be used for its 20 mm cannons) they only have little more than a colt .45 with less ammo. weird.

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2010, 02:06:36 AM »
Be fair Krusty, it was a radial engined Ki-61-II of 1944 vintage.

But yes, perfomancewise it was nothing special other than being pretty reliable at a time when more modern Japanese fighters were not.  In AH the Ki-84 and N1K2-J are likely to remain the best Japanese fighters no matter what is added.

The -II only differed really by having 2x20mm cannons. Previous versions had 4x 12.7mm MGs, but essentially were the same plane. That's an early 1943 plane with a new engine put in at the beginning of 1945. I think I was as fair as it deserves lol  :aok

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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 02:07:29 AM »
That is not an accurate list of the H8K2's bombload.  It could carry eight 250kg bombs or two 1500kg bombs.  By far the heaviest load carried by any Japanese aircraft to see combat.
The -II only differed really by having 2x20mm cannons. Previous versions had 4x 12.7mm MGs, but essentially were the same plane. That's an early 1943 plane with a new engine put in at the beginning of 1945. I think I was as fair as it deserves lol  :aok
II also had a bubble canopy and a more powerful engine.  Obviously the engine part is irrelevant when discussing the Ki-100.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 02:33:15 AM »
True, I was thinking more of the airframe and such. Ki-100 (later ones) were retrofitted with more of a bubble canopy, but that was more like a Lavochkin canopy. The Ki-61 canopy on the -II was closer to what we have in-game (like a 109).

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Re: Some suggestions
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 06:38:04 AM »
There is also this plane. The A6M3 Type 0 Model 22... It carried a supercharger and 1,130 Horsepower engine. Which, with the supercharger and the better engine, I would fly nonstop .  :D It was modified from the type 32 and had in-wing fuel tanks and room for drop tanks under each wing (320L I believe, or somewhere around that).
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2010, 01:15:21 PM »
There is also this plane. The A6M3 Type 0 Model 22... It carried a supercharger and 1,130 Horsepower engine. Which, with the supercharger and the better engine, I would fly nonstop .  :D It was modified from the type 32 and had in-wing fuel tanks and room for drop tanks under each wing (320L I believe, or somewhere around that).
It is the same engine+supercharger that the A6M5 has, minus the ejector stacks.  Most people don't realize it, but the A6M5 has pretty decent performance at altitude.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2010, 02:24:23 PM »
It is the same engine+supercharger that the A6M5 has, minus the ejector stacks.  Most people don't realize it, but the A6M5 has pretty decent performance at altitude.

Where is the WEP then? I thought that most of the time at least, a supercharger meant WEP.
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