Russian solution to oil spill

[greens]

I or none of you guys would want that in or that to happen in your back yard. Poor fellers whoever lost hope there, what a waste a land. <S> to the pennsylvanians.

[oakranger]

How are you going to deliver a nuke to a point more than a mile under water? How will you protect the Gulf communities from the tsunami event that may follow? 

They can deliver a device that far down and i am sure it is not a big bomb that can produce that kind of energy to cause a tsunami.  But nerveless, i really doubt they will do that. 

[grizz441]

How are you going to deliver a nuke to a point more than a mile under water? How will you protect the Gulf communities from the tsunami event that may follow? 

If you know how much energy the nuclear reaction is going to expend, you can easily put it into some sort of modeling program and see if there will be any tsunami concern.  I highly doubt there would be a noticeable wave effect, if any at all.

[Chalenge]

They can deliver a device that far down and i am sure it is not a big bomb that can produce that kind of energy to cause a tsunami.  But nerveless, i really doubt they will do that. 

One of the early arguments was to use a conventional device that would first penetrate to 100 feet and collapse the flow line but at 5000 feet any device they could send like a torpedo would be crushed since they have never designed anything to go that deep.

The problem with a nuclear device is that it would remove so much solid material that it would cause a monumental movement of millions of tons of water below the surface. At that depth pressures are so high that the resulting shock wave would be carried not hundreds but thousands of miles like the worst tsunami imagineable. Homeland security has always worried that a 'small' nuclear device parked and detonated just 100 miles off the east coast would kill millions of people and thats on the surface. Wheres Al Gore when you need him? 

[VonMessa]

Been there many times going to Penn State football games......... a bit unnerving when you drive through something like that.

Cool place to 4 x 4 is you like giant fissures in the road and are willing to risk getting cited  

A few times I thought I was gonna melt the tires off the Wrangler......

[whipster22]

don't worry the levies will save us

[grizz441]

The problem with a nuclear device is that it would remove so much solid material that it would cause a monumental movement of millions of tons of water below the surface. At that depth pressures are so high that the resulting shock wave would be carried not hundreds but thousands of miles like the worst tsunami imagineable. Homeland security has always worried that a 'small' nuclear device parked and detonated just 100 miles off the east coast would kill millions of people and thats on the surface. Wheres Al Gore when you need him? 

Where the heck are you getting this information?

[Wolfala]

I think the design intent would be to dig a few km under the seabed, and put the device there. Not on the surface able or baker style which were at 70 feet

[Chalenge]

Its called the law of physics but you can look for Sedan Plowshare (less than 1 MT and I think it was a little more than 100 KT and displaced 11000000 tons of soil) for more information. Underwater experiments with nukes have been shallow water experiments to reduce tsunami like events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPXQO43ASo

[grizz441]

Its called the law of physics but you can look for Sedan Plowshare (less than 1 MT and I think it was a little more than 100 KT and displaced 11000000 tons of soil) for more information. Underwater experiments with nukes have been shallow water experiments to reduce tsunami like events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPXQO43ASo

I'm sorry, there is just no way that a controlled lower scale nuclear explosion a mile underwater 50 miles off the coast will produce any tsunami wave.  The most relevant information I could find was from the wiki page of Moment Magnitude scale:

A rule of thumb equivalence from seismology used in the study of nuclear proliferation asserts that a one kiloton nuclear explosion creates a seismic signal with a magnitude of approximately 4.0.

AFAIK, the size of a tsunami-creating earthquake is usually in the magnitude of 7-9 on the Richter Scale.  This is the best I could find.  The energy created from an earthquake of this magnitude is much much larger than the energy of a nuclear blast.  As helpful as learning about the laws of physics and that pretty youtube video you sent me was, I'd like some additional sourced information that would explain the catastrophic tsunami you detailed originally.

[oakranger]

Its called the law of physics but you can look for Sedan Plowshare (less than 1 MT and I think it was a little more than 100 KT and displaced 11000000 tons of soil) for more information. Underwater experiments with nukes have been shallow water experiments to reduce tsunami like events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPXQO43ASo

Chalenge, do you even know how a tsunami is made?  If not, read a few book and you will find that this law of physics comes in many ways.

[bj229r]

I'm thinkin big explosion...Mothra gets released...New Orleans gets flattened when Mothra and Godzilla fight.......


and it's Booshe's fault

[321BAR]

How are you going to deliver a nuke to a point more than a mile under water? How will you protect the Gulf communities from the tsunami event that may follow? 

it wouldn't follow. they're not talking about a massive ICBM warhead. there's much smaller A-Bomb style tac nukes that can be used to an effect to stop the leak. but grizz is right. BP wouldnt sacrifice a valuable source of income for environmental protection.

[Karnak]

How are you going to deliver a nuke to a point more than a mile under water? How will you protect the Gulf communities from the tsunami event that may follow? 

A nuke isn't remotely powerful enough to cause a tsunami.

[grizz441]

A nuke isn't remotely powerful enough to cause a tsunami.

But it's called physics Karnak.