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Offline MORAY37

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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 10:16:53 AM »
Quote from: trax1 on May 20, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
I don't think that they don't deserve any credit for getting to where they are right now, I just don't think any team can take the Hawks 4 games with the way they're playing right now, especially Antti Niemi.

Trax, you really haven't watched Niemi much, with that statement.  He's prone to collapse, and lapses in positioning..  Philly is a full half a goal a game better in net, as well, during the playoffs.  Flyer netminders have also combined for the best goals against of any team. 

Chi- 2.57 Goals against.
Phi- 2.07 GA

Chicago also hasn't played a team that is as defensive minded as Philadelphia.  Look at Montreal- they're stymied right now, after knocking off #1 and the defending champions. 

Both teams have identical scoring per game at 3.29 Goals, and a .714 win% in the playoffs.
Both teams have a penalty kill at ~86%.
Flyers have a much better power play, @24.3%.

So, given identical scoring, but a much stronger defense and goal for the Flyers, and the advantage to the Flyers on the powerplay..... Philly wins this matchup on paper.

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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 11:36:27 AM »
Quote from: MORAY37 on May 20, 2010, 10:16:53 AM
Trax, you really haven't watched Niemi much, with that statement.  He's prone to collapse, and lapses in positioning.. 

I've watched every game that Niemi has goal tended for the Hawks this season, he might be prone to collapse every now & then, which happens with every goalie, but just about every single time he has a bad game he comes back with a vengeance in the next one, go look at his record & see for yourself, & right now Niemi is playing unbelievably good, the last 2 games he's only allowed 3 goals on 72 shots, and 2 of those goals were power play goals, Philly hasn't even seen Niemi yet, the game they played in March Huet was tending.  Hawks are gonna take the finals.
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 01:08:24 PM »
I'm not one to get into BBS debates, and/or arguments...

But, I can tell you this... throw everything out on paper.

If the Blackhawks and Flyers meet in the finals... it's going to be one "Hell" of a series!

On a limb... Blackhawks in 6. :pray


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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 01:47:54 PM »
Quote from: Xtrepid on May 20, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
I'm not one to get into BBS debates, and/or arguments...

But, I can tell you this... throw everything out on paper.

If the Blackhawks and Flyers meet in the finals... it's going to be one "Hell" of a series!

On a limb... Blackhawks in 6. :pray


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I completely agree.

Montreal does not play the same kind of physical hockey that Philly and Chicago do.  Montreal may play a more pure game, perhaps, but not as bone-crushing as the Blackhawks or Flyers.

I haven't grown up in Chicago, but rough and tumble hockey has always been a tradition around here.  I can't see it changing anytime soon.
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2010, 03:11:28 PM »
Also Moray you want to talk about stats, during the regular season, which is also a better gauge of a team then just there playoff stats, the Hawks were the #3 ranked team for scoring with 3.2 & ranked 5th for GA with 2.5, while Philly was ranked 8th for GS with 2.8 & ranked 15th with 2.7 GA, the Hawks were also the #1 ranked team in both shots for & shots against.
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Offline Xtrepid

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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2010, 08:58:58 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on May 20, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
I completely agree.

Montreal does not play the same kind of physical hockey that Philly and Chicago do.  Montreal may play a more pure game, perhaps, but not as bone-crushing as the Blackhawks or Flyers.

I haven't grown up in Chicago, but rough and tumble hockey has always been a tradition around here.  I can't see it changing anytime soon.

Well, I was to my first Hawks game (back in the original Madhouse on Madison) at age seven with my Grandfather.

Not to give away my age...

Bobby Hull, Dennis Hull, Stan Makita, Phil Esposito, Ron "Chico" Maki, Pat Stapelton, Pierre Pilote, (and before Tony Esposito) Glenn Hall...

were in their twenty's, like this young bunch.

Only thing changing now... we got our fair share of bandwagon jumpers...

that still think Stan Makita's Donuts really is in Aurora, IL. :rolleyes:


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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2010, 05:18:00 AM »
Ouch
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2010, 07:09:27 AM »
Game 3
Montreal 5, Broad Street Bullies 1 :neener:
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2010, 09:46:55 AM »
5 to 1 last nite for Montreal   :neener:



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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2010, 11:01:47 AM »
I sure hope either San Jose or Montreal advance.  If I'm forced to choose between Hossa and the Flyers, I think my head might explode.
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2010, 01:57:16 PM »
Quote from: Mister Fork on May 21, 2010, 09:46:55 AM
5 to 1 last nite for Montreal   :neener:


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Oz, you forgot to lock the door again.

See what happens..................

 :noid


Still have to win 4/7................     eh?          :P
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Offline Xtrepid

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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 06:17:12 PM »
Quote from: Vudak on May 21, 2010, 11:01:47 AM
I sure hope either San Jose or Montreal advance.  If I'm forced to choose between Hossa and the Flyers, I think my head might explode.

I foresee where this one is going...  :headscratch:


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Offline TonyJoey

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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 06:38:47 PM »
Picked Habs to win from start of playoffs. Flyers don't have a chance.



GO HABS GO!!!
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 08:28:57 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on May 21, 2010, 01:57:16 PM
Oz, you forgot to lock the door again.

See what happens..................

 :noid


Still have to win 4/7................     eh?          :P
lol, as I stated before, we will take it in 5 :neener:
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Re: VonMessa
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2010, 07:59:53 AM »
Quote from: ozrocker on May 21, 2010, 08:28:57 PM
lol, as I stated before, we will take it in 5 :neener:
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Oz, you and VonM (MBailey too, I guess :P) are invited for "Chicago Deep Dish Pizza" and  http://www.gooseisland.com/  before/after/during the game(s).

That's if Philly wins... I think we're still on course... of course! :banana:


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