A Problem

[Dadsguns]

simple fix.

get your own house and quit telling y'er dad what to do in his.

 

That was the first thing that came to my mind as I was reading the poor childs wimpering about what his Dad is doing in his own house.
 
Get your own damn house.  Until then, do what your told to do even if its picking up after that dogs mess, your earning your keep.  Appreciate what you got from your folks. 

[shotgunneeley]

If ya 'accidentally' left the door open and nudged (read: cocked your arm and THREW) the dog outside...would the rat find its way back to the house?

  Ha! We joke about doing just that.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding. I see now that I kept reverting back to "I" in the OP because "I" am the one making this post. Let me clarify that "I" am not the only one making an issue of this, my mom and sister are in agreement as well that we need to start restoring discipline on when to eat and how to go to the bathroom. We have been limiting her food and water to just a half a boll each for the entire day, but I think we will start giving it to her at a certain time of the day for just a short period. We are about to discuss this as a family to take her outside teaching her that outside is the place to go the the bathroom. The problem is that my dad will give her what ever food or water she wants and not discipline her at all, thus negating any sort of structure that we want to put into place.

Now, some of you guys think I should move out, find my own place and stop complaining about this. I think your just trying to hack me off and turn this thread into a flame bait but I'll try and elaborate further. Seriously, you think I'm going to move out and stay away from my family over a dog? Your ripping this out of context when you say that I should stay away at college and be grateful that my dad allows me to come home. Sure, my dad does set the rules, but does that mean they are right? I mean, he sits there at the table and drops crumbs down to her since she sits under him and gives him that pitiful droopy-dog look. This is a health problem that we are trying to correct since the food we cook causes her to have bowel trouble but he still gives into slipping her a few bites. What I said in my OP was that 3 out of 4 (working on the 4th) people in this household think its high-time that we potty train and provide more responsible care. To sum it up, the people who don't want her are the ones that clean up after her while the ones who want her aren't doing a thing. This is the problem.  

[uptown]

Several here have given you your answer. You just want to accept it. You said yourself that your dad sets the rules. So that does make him right. It is his and your mothers house. Not yours or you sisters. As long as he pays the bills he has the right to do whatever he likes, and keep his house in any shape he sees fit, as long as he has the mental ability to do so. Bottom line is that if you don't like it, and don't want to clean up after the dog...move out.

You're at the age now where you think you're the boss and you're not. If you want to run a household, go run your own, and leave your folks to run theirs. You can keep posting until the cows come home but that won't change the facts.

[AWwrgwy]

Three out of four people think it's high time to do something but from your OP no one seems to be willing to do anything.

The simple solution, according to your OP, is to get rid of the dog.  I commend you on trying to put the dog on a feeding and elimination schedule.  It will go a long way to solving the problem.  

I just think alot of us got the impression, from your OP, that, first and foremost, the problem was it was a little foo foo dog that also happened to have no training and bad habits.  That's the vibe I got anyhow.

You all need to get together and train yourselves to train the dog.  If everyone's not going to pitch in then at least someone who is annoyed at the dog's behavior needs to take charge and try to correct said behavior.

I just see the majority not liking the situation but not willing to try and correct it.


wrongway

[uptown]

O for pete sakes! Put the dog in a bag and throw it in the creek! Let it watermelon there.  

When dad starts pooping in the corner, then you'll have a problem. 

[Tac]

vinegar, strongest tabasco hot sauce you can find. Mix them together. Put in a small bottle with a spray nozzle.


Spray it over the whole house floor (or carpet) lightly...except near your sister's room.


next morning, the yorkie will greet her with a steaming good morning package.

Repeat for a month. She will get rid of it for you

[maddafinga]

Ha! We joke about doing just that.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding. I see now that I kept reverting back to "I" in the OP because "I" am the one making this post. Let me clarify that "I" am not the only one making an issue of this, my mom and sister are in agreement as well that we need to start restoring discipline on when to eat and how to go to the bathroom. We have been limiting her food and water to just a half a boll each for the entire day, but I think we will start giving it to her at a certain time of the day for just a short period. We are about to discuss this as a family to take her outside teaching her that outside is the place to go the the bathroom. The problem is that my dad will give her what ever food or water she wants and not discipline her at all, thus negating any sort of structure that we want to put into place.

Now, some of you guys think I should move out, find my own place and stop complaining about this. I think your just trying to hack me off and turn this thread into a flame bait but I'll try and elaborate further. Seriously, you think I'm going to move out and stay away from my family over a dog? Your ripping this out of context when you say that I should stay away at college and be grateful that my dad allows me to come home. Sure, my dad does set the rules, but does that mean they are right? I mean, he sits there at the table and drops crumbs down to her since she sits under him and gives him that pitiful droopy-dog look. This is a health problem that we are trying to correct since the food we cook causes her to have bowel trouble but he still gives into slipping her a few bites. What I said in my OP was that 3 out of 4 (working on the 4th) people in this household think its high-time that we potty train and provide more responsible care. To sum it up, the people who don't want her are the ones that clean up after her while the ones who want her aren't doing a thing. This is the problem.  

Read my entire post man.  It's not enough just to limit the food and water to half a bowl for the entire day.  Just leaving a set amount out simply will never work, ever. 

Also, half a bowl of food is very likely too much for a Yorkie.  If it's a ten pound dog, and you're feeding it a quality dog food, it should probably be eating about half a cup to 3/4 of a cup a day max.  You really should look into feeding her a very high quality dog food also, they're nutrient dense and don't have filler like cheap foods do.  Consequently, you'll feed her less and she'll poop much less.  Look into Innova Evo Red Meat formula, it's the best I've ever been able to find, and it's grain free.  You can half the amount that she goes just by making that change. 

Read everything I wrote in that last post.  If you guys can follow that for two weeks you can get the dog house trained in that time with no problems.  I've done that many times with many dogs, rescue dogs, dogs I've been sitting for a few weeks, relative's dogs, all that sort of thing.  It simply works. 

It's not enough just to limit the food though, you have to only offer it once or twice a day and only for a short time, then immediately take the dog outside until it goes.  It's a little bit of work, sure, but worth it in the end and everyone will be happier for it.

[shotgunneeley]

Yeah maddafinga I haven't been able to reply this afternoon but you've given me the best advice here. I appreciate it and that's the kind of post i was hoping to get. I said we would start feeding her at a certain time of the day just like you said in your first post.

[eagl]

I'd just refuse to clean up after the problem dog, but that returns to the topic of who is in charge at the house.  Maybe cleaning up after his filthy undisciplined mutt is your Dad's way of making you pay rent.

Find any excuse necessary, but if your Dad is causing the dog's discipline and sanitation problems, then ignore the dog and the messes it makes.  It might take a while but when your Dad wonders why the crap is piled up in that special corner and nobody is cleaning up his messes, maybe he'll get the message.

[Masherbrum]

Ha! We joke about doing just that.

There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding.

Now, some of you guys think I should move out, find my own place and stop complaining about this. I think your just trying to hack me off and turn this thread into a flame bait but I'll try and elaborate further. Seriously, you think I'm going to move out and stay away from my family over a dog? Your ripping this out of context when you say that I should stay away at college and be grateful that my dad allows me to come home. Sure, my dad does set the rules, but does that mean they are right? I mean, he sits there at the table and drops crumbs down to her since she sits under him and gives him that pitiful droopy-dog look. This is a health problem that we are trying to correct since the food we cook causes her to have bowel trouble but he still gives into slipping her a few bites. What I said in my OP was that 3 out of 4 (working on the 4th) people in this household think its high-time that we potty train and provide more responsible care. To sum it up, the people who don't want her are the ones that clean up after her while the ones who want her aren't doing a thing. This is the problem.  

     Right.   Flame bait.        You keep thinking that way.   

[shotgunneeley]

That was the first thing that came to my mind as I was reading the poor childs wimpering about what his Dad is doing in his own house.
 
Get your own damn house.  Until then, do what your told to do even if its picking up after that dogs mess, your earning your keep.  Appreciate what you got from your folks.  

That was completely absurd and uncalled for. I do not understand why some people became so hostile to this thread and think I should not care about poop and pee cluttering up the hallway. Based on the little tidbit I gave y'all surrounding the dog you managed to deduce that I am unappreciative to my parents and that cleaning up after a dog that was never wanted by the entire family is my way of earning my keep? What a bunch of authoritarian nonsense! My mom and I never wanted the dog to begin with and would rather give her away than to train her or keep living in our current state. Seeing as the rest of the family want to keep her, then the fair compromise would be to set up a feeding and bathroom schedule to make everyone happy.

Now, you're right in the sense that in two years when I complete my college education, get a good sustaining job and start my own family, I will cease to care as to how my family takes care of the dog. Until then, you are sadly mistaken in believing that I have I have no opinion. I'm not ragging on my dad and sister for loving a little lapdog (she is full of personality and very loveable at times), but I am ragging on the irresponsibility in training her.

[Tigger29]

That was completely absurd and uncalled for. I do not understand why some people became so hostile to this thread and think I should not care about poop and pee cluttering up the hallway. Based on the little tidbit I gave y'all surrounding the dog you managed to deduce that I am unappreciative to my parents and that cleaning up after a dog that was never wanted by the entire family is my way of earning my keep? What a bunch of authoritarian nonsense! My mom and I never wanted the dog to begin with and would rather give her away than to train her or keep living in our current state. Seeing as the rest of the family want to keep her, then the fair compromise would be to set up a feeding and bathroom schedule to make everyone happy.

Now, you're right in the sense that in two years when I complete my college education, get a good sustaining job and start my own family, I will cease to care as to how my family takes care of the dog. Until then, you are sadly mistaken in believing that I have I have no opinion. I'm not ragging on my dad and sister for loving a little lapdog (she is full of personality and very loveable at times), but I am ragging on the irresponsibility in training her.

Actually I think you are the one misunderstanding.  Yes it is an 'authoritarian' comment, but what it comes down to is respect.  You may very well be a legal adult, but the fact that you choose to live in your parents' home (especially if rent free) means that your dad is still has authority over you, REGARDLESS of whether or not you agree with his decisions.  You have to remember that there are a lot of Fathers playing this game and reading these message boards, and your comments make you sound like you know everything there is to know about this and that your father knows nothing.  No offense, but this is insulting to many of us.  This is why you are getting your 'absurd and uncalled for' reactions.

Now, here are your choices:

1> TALK TO YOUR FATHER AND YOUR FAMILY and work something out with them.  It is NOT IN YOUR POWER to make any kind of ultimatum with your Dad, and if you choose to do so it may end up with you living on the street and no one to pay your college bills.  It seems as if this has been tried and has not worked so lets look at your other options.

2> LET THE DOG LOOSE, GIVE IT AWAY.. WHATEVER.  Probably not a good idea.  This too may put you out on the street... or even possibly in jail if anyone thinks animal cruelty may be involved.  Lets move on

3> MOVE OUT.  Well it seems you're trying to avoid this, so lets look at your final option...

4> DEAL WITH IT.  Clean up the dog poo if told.  Walk the dog if told.  Feed the dog if told.  Bathe the dog if told.  Yes you can get a little creative.. like maybe entice it to leave little 'presents' in your sisters' or your fathers' rooms... but to be perfectly honest, it'd probably just be easier to do the work yourself and maybe even try training her a bit.  It's really not all that difficult, besides... it's only two more summers, right?  I'm sure you have friends you can hang out with a lot, staying away from home as much as possible...

Seriously though.. what do you want us to say?  AWWW why don't you just call the humane society and they will feel so sorry for your situation they will get a court order forcing your dad to give up the dog but yet leaving you anonymous so that you don't have any repercussions from this... yeah like that is going to happen.  Those places are backlogged bad enough as it is.

All your comments make you look a like a bit of an 'ungrateful brat'.  You may not seem this now, but wait until you have kids... wait until you're older and more mature... then you'll understand.  Where I come from, you do what you are told (like it or not) or you get your own place.  If I had even CONSIDERED giving my dad any kind of ultimatum (heck even now that would apply!) I'd been thrown down onto the ground on my but so fast I wouldn't know what hit me.

[Masherbrum]

Actually I think you are the one misunderstanding.  Yes it is an 'authoritarian' comment, but what it comes down to is respect.  You may very well be a legal adult, but the fact that you choose to live in your parents' home (especially if rent free) means that your dad is still has authority over you, REGARDLESS of whether or not you agree with his decisions.  You have to remember that there are a lot of Fathers playing this game and reading these message boards, and your comments make you sound like you know everything there is to know about this and that your father knows nothing.  No offense, but this is insulting to many of us.  This is why you are getting your 'absurd and uncalled for' reactions.

Now, here are your choices:

1> TALK TO YOUR FATHER AND YOUR FAMILY and work something out with them.  It is NOT IN YOUR POWER to make any kind of ultimatum with your Dad, and if you choose to do so it may end up with you living on the street and no one to pay your college bills.  It seems as if this has been tried and has not worked so lets look at your other options.

2> LET THE DOG LOOSE, GIVE IT AWAY.. WHATEVER.  Probably not a good idea.  This too may put you out on the street... or even possibly in jail if anyone thinks animal cruelty may be involved.  Lets move on

3> MOVE OUT.  Well it seems you're trying to avoid this, so lets look at your final option...

4> DEAL WITH IT.  Clean up the dog poo if told.  Walk the dog if told.  Feed the dog if told.  Bathe the dog if told.  Yes you can get a little creative.. like maybe entice it to leave little 'presents' in your sisters' or your fathers' rooms... but to be perfectly honest, it'd probably just be easier to do the work yourself and maybe even try training her a bit.  It's really not all that difficult, besides... it's only two more summers, right?  I'm sure you have friends you can hang out with a lot, staying away from home as much as possible...

Seriously though.. what do you want us to say?  AWWW why don't you just call the humane society and they will feel so sorry for your situation they will get a court order forcing your dad to give up the dog but yet leaving you anonymous so that you don't have any repercussions from this... yeah like that is going to happen.  Those places are backlogged bad enough as it is.

All your comments make you look a like a bit of an 'ungrateful brat'.  You may not seem this now, but wait until you have kids... wait until you're older and more mature... then you'll understand.  Where I come from, you do what you are told (like it or not) or you get your own place.  If I had even CONSIDERED giving my dad any kind of ultimatum (heck even now that would apply!) I'd been thrown down onto the ground on my but so fast I wouldn't know what hit me.

Perfect post Tigger.