Tank Warz 5/28/10

[captain1ma]

Greetings from the AVA high command:

Starting May 28, 2010 I will be running tank warz. This is a NON-historical setup using the ARDEN map. All bases but 4 will be set to the 3d chess piece. you will have to capture your way through it using whatever means at your disposal.

objectives will be given each night around 6pm EST. Side to capture the most objectives wins!

fighters will be enabled at Vbases.

at the beginning, you will have to capture one base just to get to the front line. C47 will be activated for both sides. the C47 will sub for the JU-52. axis will only have axis vehicles, Allies will only have Allied vehicles.

Axis--
109G6 only
JU52 -- Substituted with the C47
SDKz-251
panzer
tiger
ostwind
wirblewind
Jeep

Allies
Spit8 only
C47
firefly
M-16
M-8
M-4
M-3
Jeep

Starting bases will not have the tiger or the firefly. any base you capture will have those 2 tanks depending on who captures what.

troops-- 15
radar-- full settings
Icons-- no enemy icons

***caution--arena may be adjusted if necessary***

[TheBug]

See Rule #4

[Dawger]

I guess this is part of the "If you don't like it sit out a week" thing we heard about.

It seems to me an arena trying to attract people would run its most popular setups repeatedly until the population grows significantly.

Of course, this may be one of the more popular setups and they may be doing exactly what I mention.

[TheBug]

It's unnecessarily pigeon-holing the arena and a bad idea/setup if you asked me.  What is so wrong with a consistent historical arena and allowing the players dictate what they think is fun?

[gyrene81]

Give it a fair shake fellas.

The last time Jaeger had a tank wars setup it did pretty well. There were gv battles that almost never happen in the AvA...and with the no enemy icons setting, it will be very interesting when it comes to the aircraft dropping bombs on the tanks. Gonna see who really has his poop together when it comes to killing tanks from the air...it's not me that's for sure.

Bring your squads, bring your buddies...grab a tank and do some damage...the chances of getting hit by a dive bomber are slim.

[TheBug]

There were gv battles that almost never happen in the AvA...

 

[WWhiskey]

Looks like fun!  I will try to make it.

[gyrene81]

question?

The last few setups haven't been very conducive to tank battles sir...especially in the last couple of months.

[TheBug]

How is the current setup(Finland) not conducive?

[Dawger]

Why exactly do we want to promote ground warfare in a flying game in an arena that has trouble attracting more than 10 people?

The AvA needs to focus on concentrating the fight in order to make the arena attractive to grow the population.

This is a lack of focus. All of the people interested in flying won't be interested in this. Any loyalty to the AvA built recently is eroded by this sort of stuff.

I've only recently come back to AH. I came back for one reason. Flying in the no icons AvA.

The AvA needs to be run like a business trying to build a customer base.

What product do the customers want?

How can that product be consistently provided while providing enough variety to keep things interesting?

The product is historically based, realistic style air warfare.

This is equivalent to a steakhouse taking beef off the menu and offering tofu burgers instead.

And using a Z instead of an S makes it all look suspiciously juvenile.

[jimson]

The last time a tank battle set-up was run, there were some nights where good GV battles raged late into the night, and other nights where people complained that it was false advertising because they found no ground battles and people were just fur balling in the planes that were enabled.

These guys have a tough job trying to appeal to so many different tastes.

I'll be there, because I can still fly a fighter on this set-up.

[Dawger]

These guys have a tough job trying to appeal to so many different tastes.

The fact that they are trying to be everything to everyone is exactly the problem.

Do one thing well is where the AvA should be.

[TheBug]

The current setup allows people to GV, bomb or fly a fighter on a map based upon a historical theater.  What is wrong with that? Every taste is covered for any historically-minded player. 

[321BAR]

The last time a tank battle set-up was run, there were some nights where good GV battles raged late into the night, and other nights where people complained that it was false advertising because they found no ground battles and people were just fur balling in the planes that were enabled.

These guys have a tough job trying to appeal to so many different tastes.

I'll be there, because I can still fly a fighter on this set-up.

i'll be there because i can shove my tank through the fray...tgers and fireflies are going to need some sort of system to even the fairness out though.

Bug, i havent seen many "historical" moments yet in AvA. D-Day ended up being an air to air fight over Calais... the 2nd Kokutai vs the I-16 ended with SBDs being flown just as much as I-16s and Russians had the advantage

[TheBug]

i'll be there because i can shove my tank through the fray...tgers and fireflies are going to need some sort of system to even the fairness out though.

You can drive a tank in the current setup.  How come you're not there this week?