GV Hardness in new patch?

[wgmount]

I fired 71 shots from an m4 into the offline tigers driver window and never did kill it. yes, i used the 76 mm from about 1000 yards

[Nemisis]

Just dabbled a bit offline in a Firefly. At 2.3k, I am right now killing the Tiger with an average of 4 shouts. Usually 2nd kills turret, the 4th kills tank. I'm reliably penetrating the frontal hull armor at that range. 

Yes, but you must remember that the tiger will be returning fire, and his 88 will kill you at that range withough much trouble.

ROF is the same, so it comes down to who gets the range first, and who is unlucky enough to get a ricochet.

[Spikes]

Just dabbled a bit offline in a Firefly. At 2.3k, I am right now killing the Tiger with an average of 4 shouts. Usually 2nd kills turret, the 4th kills tank. I'm reliably penetrating the frontal hull armor at that range. 

What is the speech command then?  "Tiger, DIE!" four times? 

[Nemisis]

I fired 71 shots from an m4 into the offline tigers driver window and never did kill it. yes, i used the 76 mm from about 1000 yards

I don't think they have the driver's windo modeled (i.e. you can't shoot through it and get a driver kill), its just eyecandy.

For the M4A3(76), front shots must be made from about 600yds MAX. Side shots at around 1200yds, and rear shots at around 1500yds.

M4A3(75): NO front shot is possible, NONE. EVERY single shot is a ricochet. Side shots are possible from 400yds or so, and you can turret him in two. Rear shots should be made from no more than D800, and this should be seen as only a way to disable his engine and turret him.


The only one shot kill point I could find was by firing at the top of his turret or hull from some high ground, or by driving right upto him, and pointing your barrel at the engine decking to either side of the turret.

[Lusche]

What is the speech command then?  "Tiger, DIE!" four times? 

OF course the Tiger does understand only commands spoken in German

[E25280]

Armor does not take damage. It is either penetrated or not.

HiTech

Noted, thank you!   

[Nemisis]

As to the armor thing:


Shouldn't it be that if your gun couldn't penertate an enemy tanks armor at xxxx yds, then you only get a ricochet? Right now it seems like you can get penetrations at any range, but it just takes more hits to kill the further out you are.