Do rounds loose killing power at range?

[ZetaNine]

the answer is........rounds in this game only lose power when directed toward the new M-4

[Charge]

"Obviously the drop in lethality is less for explosive rounds as they carry their destruction with them."

I have understood that e.g. the cannon rounds are all the same, only the speed and mass change, and they lose their effectiveness with range all the same, even despite IRL the Mine round of MG151/20 would retain its chemical power even with range, where as rounds that relied more on kinetic energy would be less effective.

-C+

[Ghosth]

Offline, in an M4 75 - rockets at 1500 yards I was unable to damage a tiger.
I put over 20 rounds into it, 90% ricocheted after 20 hits at that range, all AP, there was no apparent damage.
I was setup broadside to the tiger. Seemed to matter not at all where I hit it at that range.

Same setup, same m475mm, again broadside to the tiger, again with AP, range less than 100.
With 4 hits it was smoking and with 2 more it was dead.

Instead of getting the ricochet I'd get the bigger hit flash explosion.


But don't take my word for it, test it yourself.
I'm sure your GV skills are better than mine.

Just use a repeatable test where the only change is the range fired from.

Let us know the results.

[ZetaNine]

Key Word "Toward"

[captain1ma]

i can remember Larry in a tiger, killing another tiger at 4K. both at a standstill!

[Belial]

It just seems strange to me I have killed and been killed in a Tiger at ranges where the round couldn't have much power still behind them.

From my understanding a Tiger really only has 1 spot where it could be damaged from lets say 3,000 yards...

At 3,000 yards the round has slowed down considerably and the only spot I could see damage being done is the top of the turret.


In the end it seems I was wrong.

[Lusche]

It just seems strange to me I have killed and been killed in a Tiger at ranges where the round couldn't have much power still behind them.

From my understanding a Tiger really only has 1 spot where it could be damaged from lets say 3,000 yards...

At 3,000 yards the round has slowed down considerably and the only spot I could see damage being done is the top of the turret.


In the end it seems I was wrong.

Question: Which tank was killing the tiger? My bet is it was another Tiger or a Firefly, whose cannon is on a very similar level in terms of armor penetration.
Also heavy guns like that to loose energy over 3k, but do not underestimate the level of energy retained. There actually IS still much energy behind them.
Also take the bug into account that has been around for a long time and only been adjusted in the last patch: The trunctuation of shells hitting >70 degrees down to 70 degrees. A bug that particularly came into play at long and very long ranges, when due to the more arching trajectory hits on the turret roof were much more probable.

[FireDrgn]

I thought  HTC posted the balistics when they changed them a while back... Ill go look and see if i can find it ...

[Nemisis]

Does that mean there is a distance were an HE round would do more than an AP round?

HE rounds will alwasy do more damage at any range, due to the fact that they have around 6-7lbs of high explosives stuffed inside of them. But they won't penetrate armor, so they can't be used on tanks.


For a little background on this thread:

Belial and I had gotten into a discussion while slugging it out in TT. I said that on the new M4's, a one shot kill isn't guarenteed from an M4 VC at 2000yds, which was about the range most of the engagments were taking place at. Good chance, but not guarenteed.


I think the argument arose when I turreted him with my 75mm sherman, and then killed him when I reupped .

[Belial]

Thats some weird stuff in your sig snailman your a little twisted.

[Nemisis]

Your one to talk Belial. You're not even a bish, and I've seen more rook bomb****s than bish bomb****s.


When bish get pissed they say "screw this, I'm gona go up a tiger". When rooks get pissed, they say "screw this, I'm gona go up an A20".

[Belial]

Huh?   click the thing in his sig...doom mentia and prepare to puke

[FireDrgn]

the ballistics where change back in 2007 same time the firefly was introduced... I could not find the actual chart that was posted..  It had range  and speed of the differant ammo used by tanks in the game   oh well


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[oakranger]

Belial, you have been worn last night about the topic from SHawk.  He told you the same thing what some people have told you on here.  Where is Hitech so he can laugh at you.  

[Belial]

It's no biggie I must have read that about HE rounds somewhere and didn't look close enough.


I can admit when I'm wrong