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Offline Belial

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Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« on: May 27, 2010, 09:02:47 PM »
I argue that rounds in this game leave the barrel at 1 velocity and they have the same velocity at impact however far away they land.  Same power just how high you aim to hit something further out.



Nemisis argues that they loose killing power at a distance.


Whos right lol?

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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 09:22:33 PM »
Nemisis is correct.  Drag reduces the velocity of the rounds.  Obviously the drop in lethality is less for explosive rounds as they carry their destruction with them.
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 09:25:30 PM »
Nemisis is correct.  Drag reduces the velocity of the rounds.  Obviously the drop in lethality is less for explosive rounds as they carry their destruction with them.

Does that mean there is a distance were an HE round would do more than an AP round?

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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2010, 09:29:21 PM »
That is actually testable, no matter what gun your talking about.

Even with AP rounds out of a tank, pick a ammo bunker. Count the hits it takes to explode it from 100 yards.
Repeat from 2k yards and compare the results.


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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 09:29:45 PM »
Does that mean there is a distance were an HE round would do more than an AP round?

Depends on the type of target and the round.

HE retain their destructive capacity better than solid / AP rounds, which rely fully on kinetic energy. The chemical energy of HE rounds will stay the same regardless of range.

But note that in AH energy loss due to distance is not factored in when shooting against structures (= buildings)



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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 09:40:28 PM »
Depends on the type of target and the round.

HE retain their destructive capacity better than solid / AP rounds, which rely fully on kinetic energy. The chemical energy of HE rounds will stay the same regardless of range.

But note that in AH energy loss due to distance is not factored in when shooting against structures (= buildings)









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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 09:44:14 PM »




so i'm wrong?

Yes. That's why a tank gun has better chances to penetrate enemy armor the closer it gets.
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 09:53:08 PM »
But I could swear that the damage model wasn't that good I know read it somewhere.


So your saying go get a Tiger and you'll be unstoppable because at 4k nothin has a chance of killin me.

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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 09:57:01 PM »
But I could swear that the damage model wasn't that good I know read it somewhere.

Better don't swear. ;)

You may just remember vaguely what I also said above: Against objects, the damage is a constant, regardless on range.
But against all other targets (planes, boats, GV's), velocity is a big factor. 303's will lose a lot of power past 200yds. Or just test the Panzer 75mm vs the offline Tiger at various ranges. You will notice the difference. Or think why a Hurri D has to get really close to kill a tank....
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 09:57:23 PM »
No, we're saying that physics are accurately modeled in a game that requires physics to be accurately modeled, LOL.
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2010, 09:58:45 PM »
stop arguing with a 12 year old...Tweens know everything  :aok
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2010, 10:00:33 PM »
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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2010, 10:07:11 PM »
Ok I believe you lusche.


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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 06:35:11 AM »
"So your saying go get a Tiger and you'll be unstoppable because at 4k nothin has a chance of killin me."

Well, nothing on the ground anyway.

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Re: Do rounds loose killing power at range?
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 09:00:19 AM »
"So your saying go get a Tiger and you'll be unstoppable because at 4k nothin has a chance of killin me."

Well, nothing on the ground anyway.


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