What's up with the 51 now?

[Steve]

Froger, the B pony isn't that much harder to use. 2 less guns, slightly worse view, and a bit slower on the deck. Thats about it.

Turns better.

[WMLute]

Turns better.

Here is a dedicated Pony pilot.

Has anything changed Steve?

[dmdchief]

I double down guarantee you if anything is changed STEVE will know.  You want to die early and get back to base    run across him in that 51 d or b makes no difference   YOU ARE DEAD

[Gaboon]

I had been flying the Pony since day one of coming into AH and I could out turn every plane except the zero and Hurricane. Then a patch came out to fix the F4u's so called problems and the pony was changed from that day forward. It could no longer turn like it used to, ammo usage was way to high for .50's resulting in less kills per mission, excelleration was slower and fuel usage was higher. For a plane that is considered the best fighter in WWII it sure isn't modeled like one of the best. In the beginnig I could turn the pony on a dime that isn't the case anymore and that plane was my main ride for near 3 1/2 years. Trust me it has changed in many ways. But if you don't fly it every day you will just say it seems right to me.

[USRanger]

Maybe they got new running (away) shoes.

[TheRapier]

Sorry, but anyone that refers to the "running" capabilities of the aircraft could hardly be considered unbiased .

Speed is a characteristic to be used like heavy armament or turning ability. Being outrun by a pony should be no more surprising than being outturned by a zero. What gets most folks wound up about the pony is that it moves out of gun range, making it hard to kill. However that was the point.

Nerfing a plane after this amount of time, is an admission of the political forces at work for nerfers are inevitably political creatures. They seek to do what they can't by skill, which is kill or reduce the capabilities of all planes but their planes.

The good thing is there is always another "pony" to shift to. That is until they all get nerfed, at which point its time to move on.

I think its far more educational to see what planes don't get nerfed. Points to the places where the politicians live. Take a look. These planes will have broad constituencies and middlin' high ENY out of character to their performance.

Draw your own conclusions. . .

[froger]

Turns better.

 


 


Froger

[WMLute]

Just so I am clear here...

It is being suggested that HTC changed the Flight Model of the P-51 in game and didn't say anything to anybody about it.

[froger]

Just so I am clear here...

It is being suggested that HTC changed the Flight Model of the P-51 in game and didn't say anything to anybody about it.

thats what there sayin here i guess,

[gpwurzel]

<------ Calling Shenanigans - as far as I know, they've never changed something on a plane and not said anything about it.


Wurzel

[The Fugitive]

Same here. It always turns out "little bro messed with my stick settings" or in uptowns case he didn't set his stick and graphics card right.

HTC doesn't do "politics" it's his way or the highway. In 10 years I've never seen him knuckle under to anyone. 

[Gaboon]

These days there are not to many fighters that the pony can truly flat out run by any means and its top speed is 435 MPH for the D model compare that speed to the other prop driven fighters of the time and you will see what I mean. The entire planes planing and construction was built for speed and maneuverability. After the joining of the Merlin engine to the 51 frame it was given even more speed. The 38, La7, 190D, spit 8 9,14,16, 109G14 and K4, TA152, F4U1A 1D U4, 47N M, can all catch the pony without to much trouble these days and its called a runstang give me a break. If one has to play with settings in any way in order to make a plane fly right something is a miss. If something is changed in game on one set of planes it may effect the out come of another set planes and if it is deemed it should be ok. Well its their call. Ever since the first patch for the F4u's the pony has never been what  it used to be and it used to be an out an out monster of a plane.

[Nemisis]

IDK why, but it seemed like I was blacking out sooner than usuall. But then again, I WAS flying at high speed (375-400 mph), and turning hard.

[uptown]

You're forgetting one major piece of the information here Gaboon. Speeds are relative to altitude. True the 47N is faster then 51 at 25 or 30K but not on the deck. LA7 is faster then 51 on the deck but not at 20 or 25K.
  

[uptown]

I double down guarantee you if anything is changed STEVE will know.  You want to die early and get back to base    run across him in that 51 d or b makes no difference   YOU ARE DEAD

What are you trying to get a date or just an autograph?  

Gentlemen I'd say this one last time. The performance issues I was having were related to my stick, stall limiter, sound settings and video settings. Having corrected those things the 51 performs just as it did before the update! In my frustration and hast I posted this thread. Next time I'll read the read me file and double check everything on my end before posting.
If you are blacking out or compressing it's you're flying not the AcesHigh boogie man. Adjust your deadband and dampening and use your trim controls in a dive when you need to.