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Offline Bodhi

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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 10:05:31 AM »
This leak will be capped.  Oil exploration under water will have to be continued if we want to live at our current standard of living.  There is no alternative until alternative technologies are vetted and come on line to make up the difference in using fossil fuels.

As for all the other thoughts of it being a never ending disaster, you sound just like the doomsayers on the news.  Making a comment without remotely considering the implications or education behind what was just said.
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 10:19:42 AM »
Because it was not a none stop river of oil .
Yes , the BOP valves were and are damaged .

What about IXTOC?

Nine months at a much higher rate than Deepwater Horizon. 140 Million gallons. A river of oil.

Seas didn't die.

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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 10:33:42 AM »
Kill the sea? really?

One would have to ignore the fact that there are many microorganisms that EAT oil living in the sea.

That is one of the methods used to clean the oil. Dispersant chemicals create small oil attractive particles and the microorganisms eat the result.





Yes, but it is killing all the shrimp, and what happens when it moves to the Atlantic?


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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 10:35:15 AM »
No , but they did get it capped and I bet the fish aroud that site taste like oil . Have any of you eating fish out of the mississippi river back in the 80's ? You would know that taste . I know the boat's on the river use to dump there oil in it when they changed it and it made the fish taste like it too before a law was passed to stop it .This I do know and this is for real !
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 11:44:26 AM »
Kill the sea? really?

One would have to ignore the fact that there are many microorganisms that EAT oil living in the sea.

That is one of the methods used to clean the oil. Dispersant chemicals create small oil attractive particles and the microorganisms eat the result.





Funny...don't buy into the company line so much.  Those very dispersant chemicals are recently being show to kill phytoplankton and zooplankton (meroplankton).  It's also been show to inhibit Psuedomonas life cycle, the primary group of microorganism you are referring to.

And, there are not "many" microorganisms that eat oil. There are a few, and those are incredibly specialized with the proper enzymes to break the carbon chains into usable sizes.  Crude oil isn't, after all, an abundant food source normally.  Though, one could make an argument that we are creating a selective pressure for the adaptation of just that ability, over the past 100 years or so.

The main impact will be to the marshes and estuarine fisheries of the gulf.  Unless, that is, a large amount of oil hits the loop current and gets pushed into the Florida Keys.  Given the stressors already present on the reefs there (water is already hot, and bleaching has started early- also a lot of disease vectors present currently on Acroporid corals), a large influx of heavy oil into that system could very well collapse the coral communities past any foreseeable recovery.  

And, given that some genus', Acroporids in particular, are already at about 5% of historical abundance in many locations, it won't take much.  

The IXTOC spill never had a chance to reach the reef system in any major concentration, due to the currents of the Gulf that took it the long way around, and actually concentrated it around Texas.  This spill (Deepwater Horizon) has a pretty direct line to the Keys.
Old TOPEX showing gulf current structure


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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2010, 12:39:20 PM »
What about IXTOC?

Nine months at a much higher rate than Deepwater Horizon. 140 Million gallons. A river of oil.

Seas didn't die.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v290/n5803/abs/290235a0.html


funny thing IXTOC is the mayan word for blow out.  I guess BP shouldda named theirs the sure ixtoc.

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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2010, 01:41:08 PM »
From that loop current map it look's like the oil would be going to cuba ? I'm with James Carville on this one .
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2010, 03:25:44 PM »
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 05:23:50 PM »
Just wait untill they get the top cut off . You think it's bad now just wait .
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 05:33:53 PM »
I'm afraid this is going to keep leaking till the relief wells are dug... so till August or September  :(
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2010, 05:52:35 PM »
Yes, but it is killing all the shrimp, and what happens when it moves to the Atlantic?


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The majority of the shrimp is caught west of the oil. Its not going to effect it that bad. Fishing east of the delta will be.
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2010, 05:59:28 PM »
If BP would just send the BS they're feeding to the public, down the pipe, the well would be plugged in seconds.
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2010, 06:31:10 PM »
Never let a disaster go to waste. There is a company that is designed to handle disasters like this and yet they have not been called in. Its obvious why.  :old:
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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2010, 07:51:32 PM »
One thing I find interesting...
It is summer, gas prices usually go up due to "increased consumption" this time of the year. Usually whenever someone looks at another the wrong way,gas prices go up. However, with this large spill, gas prices have dropped drastically in a few weeks.

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Re: Oil spill question
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2010, 08:28:57 PM »
I cannot believe no one has called Chuck Norris in!  WTF?! :headscratch:
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