Avoid the G940 like the Plague

[Silat]

Humble and others are right though, regardless if this is the first generation of the G940 or not, for the price they are charging and presenting them as high end devices, they should work flawlessly out of the box. 

When CH released the first force feedback joystick over 15 years ago, it worked flawlessly out of the box.  Any issues that arose from it were due to not having the serial ports not properly configured and not because of the device themselves.  I guess that's the difference between a well manufactured product from the US and a crappily manufactured product from China. 

When it came to get new controllers last month after my 10 year old CH gear started to go south, I got CH gear again after reading the headaches humble was going through and from the others that had posted in the Logitech forums.


ack-ack

I also replaced my old ch hotas with a new ch hotas this month. I know it was the right move because I still cant fly worth a damn

[Wagger]

Oh yea.  Well with my new G940 not only do my pilot skills still suck but I look damn good at the same time.

[zack1234]

looking good is hood enough, I am the best looking in squad
I have a logitec forcefeed back joystick which lost calibration at the drop of a hat, a powered hub sorted out

I bought a CH fighterstick it is very nice stick.

[oboe]

I'm another completely dissatisfied G940 owner.   In addition to terrible rudder spiking, I also have screwed up toe brakes.   But the rudder spiking problem makes the unit unusable in AH.   I'm on my 3rd replacement with the same problem (which started last November).   Logitech's support is just shy of terrible.

The G940 stands as the worst piece of hardware I have ever purchased.

[humble]

It's to bad because the hardware itself seems well crafted. Unbelievable that a major company that knows it's had prior issues would put out a product with such poor firmware and software.

[CRYPTIC]

One word CHINA you might want to check the paint on it it may contain lead.
 I'v always owed CH and em glad that's the choice I made.

[allaire]

The Chinese don't use lead paint for imports to America.  They use cadmium now.

[Wagger]

I don't seem to have any problems with spiking on my rudder pedals that I am aware of.  What should I look for to find out if my rudder pedals are spiking. 
The only set I sent back for replacement is still boxed up in my back room.  I ended up with two, don't ask, and while I was waiting for the replacement I put my other to use.  Still using it and love it.  Maybe I am just a little more patient, or forgiving.  But hopefully they will get it fixed with the next patch or software update.  After using FFB system it just seems really odd to fly with a joystick that does not have it.

[oboe]

Agree on the FFB - its really cool.

I can check my spiking two ways.   Go to the runway, go to external view and get behind the plane.  Then push and hold the rudder pedals 1/2 way in either direction.   Within seconds, I can see my rudder flip flopping.

I can also see it under the Logitech profiler calibration window, do the same thing - hold the pedal 1/2 way through its range and watch the little arrow go crazy.   Also under the advanced calibration tab in AH, where you can see the digital values.  I can watch them change instantaneously up to 20% away from where they should be when I hold a constant turn with the rudder.

[Wagger]

After trying what you described I don't seem to have any problems with rudder spiking.

[oboe]

I have no problems with spiking when I install the G940 and check it out on my Vista-equipped laptop.   Even the toe brake issue disappears.   I keep thinking its a driver issue with Win 7, but I think there are Win 7 G940 owners here without the problem.

I've checked Sounds, Video and Game controllers for exclamation points or question marks - the only problems I had there were related to the Data In and Data Out for my Cougar (which I currently use only as a controller to plug my TM Pedals into, so I can fly with peds.)   I uninstalled these and it doesn't affect or fix the problem.

[Charge]

"One word CHINA you might want to check the paint on it it may contain lead."

Not to mock products made in China because they can do things well, and probably would if that was their choice, but when it comes to buying people generally always choose the cheapest product, not the best. Thus the better made product will sell less and soon better products are not made anymore because they are expensive to produce but they do not sell, so crappy products will be expensive and eventually you end up with only expensive crap available.

I always think about my sweet HOTAS Cougar in this respect. Of course they screwed the product by making a crappy gimbal design and putting small carbonfilm pots in it but as I got rid of these deficiencies the stick has worked beautifully and it has been bug free for what, six years now? Would I have payed more if it was made with a decent gimbal and hall-sensors, probably not but if I knew it would serve me, say, ten years, I probably would. So even if the Warthog may have a blood seizing price tag on it when it arrives it may well be worth it if you consider how long you will be interested in flight sims.

-C+

[FLS]

I have no problems with spiking when I install the G940 and check it out on my Vista-equipped laptop.   Even the toe brake issue disappears.   I keep thinking its a driver issue with Win 7, but I think there are Win 7 G940 owners here without the problem.

I've checked Sounds, Video and Game controllers for exclamation points or question marks - the only problems I had there were related to the Data In and Data Out for my Cougar (which I currently use only as a controller to plug my TM Pedals into, so I can fly with peds.)   I uninstalled these and it doesn't affect or fix the problem.

Oboe that's a puzzle. If it works on your laptop it seems that it's not a G940 problem or it would be the same on every system.

[Tigger29]

I've been researching G940 issues for awhile now.. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one, but I found one new for under $200 shipped.  Keep in mind that Amazon has been showing it for this price for a couple of weeks now, but until today it was on 'backorder'.  This tells me that Logitech has released a batch of G940s at a much lower price to them.  Wishful thinking tells me that this is because they just finished building a new batch with some hardware corrections, but part of me thinks that they are currently building an updated batch, but they are selling what's left of the old ones cheaper.  Only time will tell which is the case though.

I'm honestly not so worried about the FF issues, as I have confidence that it will all be corrected for the 6.0 software release.  The 'reversal bug' does bother me a bit, but I've heard people complain like crazy about it, and I've seen others that really don't notice it... so I'm hoping that it's one of those things you wouldn't even notice unless you were either extremely anal, or were looking for it specifically.  We'll see.

What especially bothers me is the Rudder Pedal spiking issue, however I'm thinking that it's a driver issue.  I've noticed that on their website, the 64 bit driver for windows 7 has been omitted.  Possibly a website error, and the file itself can be downloaded, but the link for it is missing for some reason.  I'm wondering if people are installing the 32 bit driver onto 64 bit Win7, and this may be causing the issues?  It's just a theory.  Anyways, the 64bit driver can be downloaded HERE so maybe if you guys are having issues, it's worth checking into.

I'll let you guys know when I get my stick in... supposed to be delivered on the 30th.

[FLS]

Tigger the 64 bit software was only off the site for a few days. It's back and it's the same version they had previously.

Even with it's problems the G940 is a steal at $200. Just don't ruin it with the firmware update.