Author Topic: P-51 gunsight  (Read 1725 times)

Offline dhart

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 139
      • 357th Yoxford Boys
P-51 gunsight
« on: June 09, 2010, 12:09:08 PM »
Didnt the Mustang have a lead computing gunsight? If I remember right it did. Why not put one in the pony in the main arena?
Pigs On The Wing- 2nd Wing

Offline Soulyss

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6559
      • Aces High Events
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 12:15:53 PM »
Some P-51's did have a lead computing gun sight (model K-14 I believe).  It was a gyroscopic based system that was in effect a mechanical computer.  It required data input by the pilot in order to calculate the correct range to the target.  The gyroscope also had a tendency to tumble during any sort of maneuver that led many pilot to simple "cage" it and use it as a fixed sight. 

80th FS "Headhunters"
I blame mir.

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 04:19:06 PM »
Its a late war product that not all aircraft had initially. I would love to spend some perks on it though!  :D
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 04:37:53 PM »
AW had the K-14 gunsight, well, at least the Kesmoid's version of it.


ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline SgtPappy

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1174
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 05:01:02 PM »
I think the P-47N and P-51D in-game have a K-14 gunsight system clearly installed.

Too bad we can't actually use it though.

I am a Spitdweeb

"Oh I have slipped the surly bonds of earth... Put out my hand and touched the face of God." -J.G. Magee Jr.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 05:03:42 PM »
Spitfire XIV and XVI as well as Tempest had lead computing sites too.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline dhart

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 139
      • 357th Yoxford Boys
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 05:39:30 PM »
Well since we all agree that they were around back in the day, why not use them on the planes that had them? We have something like it in the training arena where you can have a marker identify where to fire, just put it in the planes that used it.
Pigs On The Wing- 2nd Wing

Offline Soulyss

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6559
      • Aces High Events
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 05:52:05 PM »
*edit*

N/M.
80th FS "Headhunters"
I blame mir.

Offline Bronk

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9044
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 06:38:27 PM »
See Rule #4

Offline AAJagerX

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2339
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 06:39:22 PM »
I can't imagine that it'd be very useful in game with the wacky maneuvering that goes on.  I may be wrong though.
AAJagerX - XO - AArchAAngelz

trainers.hitechcreations.com

Offline AirFlyer

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1210
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 08:19:59 PM »
Well since we all agree that they were around back in the day, why not use them on the planes that had them? We have something like it in the training arena where you can have a marker identify where to fire, just put it in the planes that used it.

It's no where close to that useful, if it was do you think pilots of have locked it to a fixed position?
Tours: Airflyer to 69 - 77 | Dustin57 92 - 100 | Spinnich 100 - ?
"You'll always get exactly what you deserve." Neil

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 08:59:01 PM »
It's no where close to that useful, if it was do you think pilots of have locked it to a fixed position?
It was useful.  In the Spitfire IX squadron that first tested it, accuracy went up a lot, but you are absolutely correct that it was nothing like the training tool.  In AH we just don't have the mechanisms in place to model it, and even if we did our maneuvering is way more extreme than it would work with in most cases.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Flayed

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 286
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 09:10:54 PM »
  I think it would just take some of the skill and fun out of the game. Besides P51's an Spits are already so easy to fly and kill things in who needs a fancy gun sight. :headscratch:
Bringing peace to the MA's 1 explody thingy at a time! :)

  Pork em Pork em all!!!
  And the best quote EVERRRRR!!!
"All I can say is wow,some people are really stuck on stupid."
HiTech

Offline Chalenge

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15179
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 09:21:58 PM »
It was useful.  In the Spitfire IX squadron that first tested it, accuracy went up a lot, but you are absolutely correct that it was nothing like the training tool.  In AH we just don't have the mechanisms in place to model it, and even if we did our maneuvering is way more extreme than it would work with in most cases.

So what your saying is that cartoon pilots maneuver harder than pilots that had their lives on the line? WOW!  :D
If you like the Sick Puppy Custom Sound Pack the please consider contributing for future updates by sending a months dues to Hitech Creations for account "Chalenge." Every little bit helps.

Offline Tupac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5056
Re: P-51 gunsight
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 12:55:53 AM »
So what your saying is that cartoon pilots maneuver harder than pilots that had their lives on the line? WOW!  :D

when your in a cartoon plane you dont feel the g forces. We turn our planes to their structural limits, they turned theirs to their physical ability
"It was once believed that an infinite number of monkeys, typing on an infinite number of keyboards, would eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare. However, with the advent of Internet messageboards we now know this is not the case."