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« on: June 09, 2010, 07:12:47 PM »
Ok so where we go again.  Tell me again why limiting bombers to single formations at a certain ENY is a bad thing?  Or even the ord loadout in attack planes or bombers varied by ENY?  My reason for asking is simple... 14-4 advantage in an arena does the side with the significantly higher numbers be able to bring 3 or 4 sets of lanc formations with the full 14 1000lb bomb pack?  I know some say players will find a way to game the game no matter what and bring 14 P38's or something but that to me would be more difficult for a country to take a base with then 4 sets of lancs and 7 fighters to cover them, or vulch.  I mean really i dont see this as a need in the more populated arenas as when a mission of 14 or 15 shows up at a base you can get 10 - 20 uppers to defend but when your entire country is outnumbered 14-4 and your field is hit with that many bombers and then on top of it they feel the need to deack an vulch the field!!!  Like the 7 fighters shouldnt be able to handle the 4 potential uppers from the field without vulching....  There has to be some way to balance this out better in the lower populated arenas like MW where a certain nitwit squad likes to horde and ruin map after map after map with these tactics.



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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 07:15:07 PM »
i didnt even read the paragraph but i saw the flame on and knew it was about eny and thought to myself...  :noid
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 07:16:30 PM »
and its automatic answers like that in my opinion that nullify the purpose of the boards
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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 07:17:27 PM »
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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 07:21:47 PM »
LOL and HiTech really thinks crowded arenas keep new people from signing up.  If i was a new player now and was treated the way new players are in the arenas and on the boards i wouldnt give him my money either.  Lucky for him ive been around for a long time and remember when other players actually cared about helping others.
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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 07:25:26 PM »
I understand that it's dweeby. But it happens. IMO there isn't an easy way to fix it with out a whole new redesign of the system...when this is the only arena besides EW that there is a problem. I personally don't agree with the earlier war milk run arenas at all, but it's not my game. I don't see any particular joy in doing 14vs0 base taking either. I wish we could have unlimited 163s with unlimited ammo and fuel when out numbered like that :)
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 07:32:54 PM »
Me thinks the OP is tend to a little over exaggeration.  The high number side as described would have to contend with the ENY when selecting a plane, though to what extent the ENY will limit them, I can't say off hand.  So, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility the Knights did experience ENY but the penalty wasn't high enough to prevent them from taking off in Lancasters. 


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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 07:34:12 PM »
LOL and HiTech really thinks crowded arenas keep new people from signing up.  If i was a new player now and was treated the way new players are in the arenas and on the boards i wouldnt give him my money either.  Lucky for him ive been around for a long time and remember when other players actually cared about helping others.
sorry mate for the big NO but whenever i see an eny thread in the wishlist or general discussion or any whiners in the general discussion i have to flame them...
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 07:40:42 PM »
Its not really a whine but a serious concern and question.  This ruins the game play that I PAY FOR and I think I have the right to ask if something can be changed.  It may have been talked about a million times before but eventually someone will come up with an idea that HiTech may see worthy of some looking into.  I dont see how limiting ord loadout and or formation selection could be all that hard to add to the existing game and since huge ENY issues dont seem to be as big of a problem in the LW arenas such a change shouldnt really affect game play there.  I will say that the shift to this style of play in the MW arena has pushed me into the LW arenas a lot in the last few months and I am enjoying that but it is a totally different style of game play in itself. 
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 08:24:46 PM »
Its not really a whine but a serious concern and question.  This ruins the game play that I PAY FOR and I think I have the right to ask if something can be changed.  It may have been talked about a million times before but eventually someone will come up with an idea that HiTech may see worthy of some looking into.  I dont see how limiting ord loadout and or formation selection could be all that hard to add to the existing game and since huge ENY issues dont seem to be as big of a problem in the LW arenas such a change shouldnt really affect game play there.  I will say that the shift to this style of play in the MW arena has pushed me into the LW arenas a lot in the last few months and I am enjoying that but it is a totally different style of game play in itself. 
Ya know Grumpy, you're just one of over 1000 people around the world who pay, and I'm betting if everyone said the same thing, then maybe, just maybe HTC would consider making a change. But, after how many years we all know they have tried several things and ENY has been the most successful. When was the last time you got on the boards at any other EA Games, Activision, Sony Entertainment, Valve, Sierra or any of the other hundred game companies and told them you wanted something in their game changed because you think what they were doing was lame?

As has been said at least 100 times just since I've been here, if it's that important to you to fly a specific plane that is limited by ENY at the time, switch countries...there is nothing physically forcing you to stay in the country that has a ENY limits going on. It's your choice, you make it, you live with it.

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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 08:26:20 PM »
Me thinks the OP is tend to a little over exaggeration.  The high number side as described would have to contend with the ENY when selecting a plane, though to what extent the ENY will limit them, I can't say off hand.  So, it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility the Knights did experience ENY but the penalty wasn't high enough to prevent them from taking off in Lancasters. 


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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 08:45:01 PM »
Ya know Grumpy, you're just one of over 1000 people around the world who pay, and I'm betting if everyone said the same thing, then maybe, just maybe HTC would consider making a change. But, after how many years we all know they have tried several things and ENY has been the most successful. When was the last time you got on the boards at any other EA Games, Activision, Sony Entertainment, Valve, Sierra or any of the other hundred game companies and told them you wanted something in their game changed because you think what they were doing was lame?

As has been said at least 100 times just since I've been here, if it's that important to you to fly a specific plane that is limited by ENY at the time, switch countries...there is nothing physically forcing you to stay in the country that has a ENY limits going on. It's your choice, you make it, you live with it.



Did you even read my post?  I wasnt complaining about what i can or can not fly as I fly planes with a high enough ENY im hardly ever affected.  And as far as your comment on me being only 1 of the people that play the game your right and maybe im the one that doesnt care how much i get flamed on the boards to actually say something.  I could name a large number of players that feel the same as I do about this subject and that dont even post on the boards due to the fact they know they will just get flamed or nothing will come out of it.  I like the fact that if I or anyone else comes up with an idea that HiTech may try or consider or maybe something i suggest sparks a good idea out of someone else that ends up in the game and in turn makes it that much better then my post was worth it no matter how worthless it may seem to just you.
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Re: ENY.......
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 09:25:50 PM »
LOL and HiTech really thinks crowded arenas keep new people from signing up. 

You have lost any credibility with this statement.

Statements like this tend to make me ignore anything else a person has to say.

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 11:28:41 PM »
You have lost any credibility with this statement.

Statements like this tend to make me ignore anything else a person has to say.

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Thats ok, with some of the comments you have made to others I don't expect anything.  I play your game because it is cheap entertainment for me and has been for close to 10 years.  Just because I, or anyone else for that matter, may not agree with some of the things you do it is your business and your game and you have the right to do what you wish with it.  In the end I still pay my $15 bucks a month and from a business standpoint that is the most important, but just because you dont like or agree with one of my personal views doesn't mean that im wrong or anything else I say should be ignored if customer retention really is your ultimate goal.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 04:08:15 AM »
Did you even read my post?

looking at the replies I dont think anyone did ...

having actually read the OP I agree, the ENY values for buffs do seem to be a bit high. if ENY is high enough to restrict the more capable fighters/attack/gvs, it should also restrict the 4 engined heavies if the purpose is to help balance. the ENY limit of 29 should probably go too - if the odds are 3:1 the high numbered side's players really need to swap. grounding everything would be a good incentive :D
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