RipSnort.....I've been using CH products for years.....tried the others, they didn't hold up as well, and for some reason their drivers etc were sometimes a squeak to get going in some sims such as the MS sidewinder in AW. I like the f-16 combat stick.....coupled with the CH pro throttle, which makes the cH Combat stick programable. along with my CH rudder pedals. I do not use the keyboard for anything in AH.......everything comes off the ch F-16 combat stick and the pro throttle....throttle best investment I've made