New announcement: Radar Settings

[lyric1]

One thing I noticed with some of these overlapping radar rings now you only have to spawn on the runway & the enemy base next door is flashing I see the potential for a lot of abuses taking place with that happening.

[WMLute]

One thing I noticed with some of these overlapping radar rings now you only have to spawn on the runway & the enemy base next door is flashing I see the potential for a lot of abuses taking place with that happening.

No you didn't.

Base warning ranges didn't change, only the dot dar range did.

[grizz441]

No you didn't.

Base warning ranges didn't change, only the dot dar range did.

Right but if two bases are close enough and each base is in the others radar ring, then what lyric says is accurate.

[Kev367th]

One thing I noticed with some of these overlapping radar rings now you only have to spawn on the runway & the enemy base next door is flashing I see the potential for a lot of abuses taking place with that happening.

Should come in handy huh .

Yup I'll enjoy Oz, looking forward to no more scraping ice off the car on a cold winters morning.

[WMLute]

Right but if two bases are close enough and each base is in the others radar ring, then what lyric says is accurate.

HiTech said that base Warnings were NOT changed. 

The reason bases flash is the Warnings settings.

The size of the radar ring (dot dar) has nothing to do with the Warning ranges. 

It just so happens that they were the same size before.

According to HiTech only the Dot Dar (radar ring) and radar alt settings were tweaked.

[Kev367th]

From Pyros announcement -
"Tower based radar range has been increased to 20 miles.  
You can view the radar distances right clicking on the
clipboard map and selecting Radar from the display
settings menu."

I would take to mean that the base flashes when the 20 mile radius is broken.

I'm sure someone will try it out, but I think from the other two posts it already has been.

[edit] Thinking about it - Changing the dot dar to 20 miles doesn't help detect NOEs earlier, changing the base warning ring DOES.

However if WMLute is correct it doen't change sea/water based NOEs one little bit.

[The Fugitive]

....and Hitech said that the flashing range is still 12 miles even tho the dar ring has been moved to 20 miles. So the over lapping circle will show dots, but will not set off the flash warning.

[Baumer]

You gents do know that the guys who flew the NOE missions for real often brought pieces of trees, or broken props back from hitting the water.

Here's nice one of a USN PB4Y-2 that struck the mast of the ship it was attacking. The USN PB4Y's logged most of their patrols at low altitude (500 feet or less for 10 hours at a time).



Kev367th if you look at the arena settings off-line you will see that the radar rings [TowerBasedRadarRange] is separate from either [FighterWarningRange] or [BomberWarningRange]. In the past HTC has had the radar range and the fighter/bomber warning range the same. From Pyro's post he only states that the radar range has been increased. A simple test is all that's needed to confirm this. I will do that after the family goes to sleep tonight.

[Kev367th]

....and Hitech said that the flashing range is still 12 miles even tho the dar ring has been moved to 20 miles. So the over lapping circle will show dots, but will not set off the flash warning.

Dar ring used to be 15?

[Lusche]

Dar ring used to be 15?

12. Dar diameter was slightly smaller that a sector grid.

[lyric1]

....and Hitech said that the flashing range is still 12 miles even tho the dar ring has been moved to 20 miles. So the over lapping circle will show dots, but will not set off the flash warning.

If your more than 65 feet above ground it will though? So as soon as you take off an overlapping radar ring & hit 65 feet the red dot and alert will take place correct?

[falcon23]

ONLY the dot..the ALARM is still set at 12 miles.

[Lusche]

...and alert was always independent of flight altitude.

[lyric1]

ONLY the dot..the ALARM is still set at 12 miles.

Got it. Now i asked the question earlier in the thread & has not been answered yet. What part of the aircraft is deemed to be the portion that sets off the radar as in dar bar or red dot or base flashing center,top,bottom?

[Kev367th]

12. Dar diameter was slightly smaller that a sector grid.

Thanks.

In that case -
Fugitive - you claimed the increased dar range gave you over 10 mins to get in the air.

Lets try some basic maths -
Lanc @ 30k @ approx 240mph = 4 miles per min
4 miles per min = 5 mins from breaking dar to being over the field (no where near 'over 10 mins')
Only difference is an extra 2 mins warning which still isn't going to help in that situation.

By the time you get up, the Lancs are still well gone, and yup I always took Lancs to around 30k.
[edit] Unless of course you're expecting the buffs to hang around till you get to them

People will adapt, bigger and higher hoards, buffs at higher alts, kill dar then FHs / VH and then if they are sneaky that might not be the actual field they are after.

Theres an easy way around the lowered NOE level, all it relies on is human nature and worked for my old squad 90% of the time.