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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2010, 06:17:43 AM »
hmmm the deer has good SA,   didn't think it would go for the dog first!
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2010, 01:44:31 PM »
Good thing it wasn't a bear cub and mama came looking like that Doe did.
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2010, 02:41:06 PM »
This is why I love German Shepherds, Boxers, and Labs, they can defend themselves very well, and I have never been able to breed out the instincts out of them. My Boxer (in his prime, poor guy is 11 now) would've probably borken that deer's neck. My sister's Boxer/Pitbull would have massacred it. It is just sad how animals are becoming more docile and are being punished by euthanizing as soon as it nips it's owner. More than likely, the owner did something to prevoke it. Deer are wild things though, don't screw with em. And now back to the thread.
  That was a border collie and if the thing wouldn't have got blind sided it would have probably defended itself pretty good.. My wifes family own's a large ranch and have several working border collies and I have seen em back bulls down.. I own a border collie myself and she is a brute..
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2010, 02:42:51 PM »
What's with those people just videotaping it instead of helping out the dog?

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2010, 03:05:45 PM »
What's with those people just videotaping it instead of helping out the dog?

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2010, 04:02:58 PM »
  That was a border collie and if the thing wouldn't have got blind sided it would have probably defended itself pretty good.. My wifes family own's a large ranch and have several working border collies and I have seen em back bulls down.. I own a border collie myself and she is a brute..

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2010, 04:43:51 PM »
That doe didn't do anything to deserve being put down.  Keep your damn dog on a leash.  The dog getting hurt is the fault of the owner and nobody else much less the Deer.  That fawns age would be measured in hours and mom was within her every natural right to defend her fawn from what she saw as a threat.

When November rolls around Mom would be fair game.  This to me serves as a perfectly good reminder to respect nature and where exactly we as mere humans might sit if it came to it.  As far as tackling a deer or an elk?  Yeah, right.  I'll believe it when I see it.

My first thought in this situation would be keeping my dog away from the deer and leaving both Doe and Fawn an escape route.  That Fawn wasn't going anywhere quickly and the biggest predator yearling deer have are coyotes.  What are coyotes?  They're dogs.  Mama deer did right, the dogs owner did stupid.

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2010, 06:20:52 PM »
That doe didn't do anything to deserve being put down.  Keep your damn dog on a leash.  The dog getting hurt is the fault of the owner and nobody else much less the Deer.  That fawns age would be measured in hours and mom was within her every natural right to defend her fawn from what she saw as a threat.

When November rolls around Mom would be fair game.  This to me serves as a perfectly good reminder to respect nature and where exactly we as mere humans might sit if it came to it.  As far as tackling a deer or an elk?  Yeah, right.  I'll believe it when I see it.

My first thought in this situation would be keeping my dog away from the deer and leaving both Doe and Fawn an escape route.  That Fawn wasn't going anywhere quickly and the biggest predator yearling deer have are coyotes.  What are coyotes?  They're dogs.  Mama deer did right, the dogs owner did stupid.
U did notice the deer were right in a populated area right? It could be a place like were i live and peeps let there dogs run around if there not a problem to other people or pets.... If that were my dog I would of been having a fawn on a the bbq and doe backstraps... Did u notce the dog was not even interested? All u tree huggers are the same :rolleyes:
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2010, 07:00:37 PM »
U did notice the deer were right in a populated area right? It could be a place like were i live and peeps let there dogs run around if there not a problem to other people or pets.... If that were my dog I would of been having a fawn on a the bbq and doe backstraps... Did u notce the dog was not even interested? All u tree huggers are the same :rolleyes:

I take partial offence to that.  I'm a tree hugger but have no problem in this situation throwing bambi's mother on the grill here (once bambi is old enough to take after him/herself first).  I would partly suspect the deer is rabid, as the threat was the cat right there ontop of the fawn, while the deer tookoff and attacked a dog walking across the street on the other side of the block (given that wolves and coyotes are a threat to fawns, so are mountain lions and bobcats).
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2010, 07:02:31 PM »
You really called me a tree hugger?  :headscratch:

The dog was out of frame and I don't know what may have set the Doe off.  If the dog was on a leash I don't imagine this same incident would have happened.  If you would really choose to discharge a firearm in a neighborhood like that at a deer you're not only unsafe but you're also foolish with questionable legality depending on your local laws or municipality.  On the other hand you could be playing a part of ITG in which case you're talking out your rear which I think to be the true case.

If you choose to not have your pet on a leash you better be prepared to accept responsibility for what that dog gets into.  Whether it's sprayed by a skunk, scratched by a raccoon or in this case beaten by a deer defending it's fawn the dog owner is responsible.  My chocolate lab runs free in a 4 acre section of invisible fenced area.  He on occasion gets into it with a skunk or other animal and it's on me to get him cleaned up.  If he attacks a child that wanders into our back lot then I'm responsible.  If he gets killed by a pack of coyotes then I'm responsible.  We take various precautions and safeguard to prevent things like that but accidents do happen.  This dog not being attended while outside in a neighborhood allowed to run across the street with cars and other animals is the responsibility of the owners good deed or bad.

In this case, the screaming woman who I imagine is the owner of the dog needs to deal with the fact that her failure to secure and attend to her dog was beaten by a deer defending her fawn.  It's her own damn fault for not taking any precautions.

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2010, 07:07:15 PM »
I take partial offence to that.  I'm a tree hugger but have no problem in this situation throwing bambi's mother on the grill here (once bambi is old enough to take after him/herself first).  I would partly suspect the deer is rabid, as the threat was the cat right there ontop of the fawn, while the deer tookoff and attacked a dog walking across the street on the other side of the block (given that wolves and coyotes are a threat to fawns, so are mountain lions and bobcats).

You don't see many whitetails in LA, do you?  That deer is a perfectly healthy animal caring for her fawn.  The house cat while related to a cougar or predatory cat was apparently not deemed a threat by mom.  For some reason the dog was.  The dog is bigger and also has an appearance more to what is a very real, immediate and direct threat to both her and her fawn which would be a coyote.  The deers natural instincts told it the dog was a threat.  It's not my job to decide why or detain the deer for questioning as to why it attacked the dog instead of the cat (she wasn't thrilled about the cat) but simply point out that it's a wild animal.  A wild animal that attacked an unattended and unrestrained dog that shouldn't have been there to interfere with the deer in the first place.

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2010, 07:34:47 PM »
I work for a living down here, but "live" up north when I don't need to make a dollar in Trinity County, one of the best countys in this state (maybe country?) for white tail hunting.  The difference?... down here a deer a 200' up the slope in the Sepulveda pass is enough cause for a sigalert due to all the loly-gagging (*lurch-groan*).  Up there they're (does for the most part) considered pests and shot at when they venture too close to the gardens surrounded by 9-foot fences if you don't live within a city's limits.
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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2010, 08:43:18 PM »
I blame the owner, she took a voyeur stance on it till it became Real.

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2010, 09:18:22 PM »
I woulda jumped in there. It mighta' hurt me, but it could have killed the dog.

Poor dog just showing submissive posture, not smart enough to realize deer don't speak dog.  :headscratch:

Cat's not too smart either but at least he's got 8 lives left.  :rock

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Re: When Bambi attacks!!!!
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2010, 10:53:56 PM »
That went down like a cartoon. "Cat, if you don't stop messing with my baby, I'm going to go kick the crap out of that dog minding his/her own business 40 yards over!"

I've been working out in the woods as a forestry major. I've come across about a dozen fawns. The little jokers will let you get right on top of them before they bust out like a covey of quail. The first few times it would be a newborn who could just wobble off and stop a short distance away (I could have caught one without trying). I've never had momma come out and stare me down but I know she was around.
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