When Bambi attacks!!!!

[kamori]

I shot all 3 of my neighbors pitbull's after the pepper spray didn't work..
I don't care who you are:  Your dog threatens my kids, it's dead....
Neighbor had a problem with this..  But the cops didn't...     
 

What ever the problem was that started (Noise, crys..?) you happened to have a Gun and pepper spray on you? You had time to get the 2 of them then You had time to use pepper spray then switch to a firearm? Thats allot of time, couldn't get your kids from the threat? Are you a police officer?  Please give details. Not judging, just need more details.

Kam

[Becinhu]

I take partial offence to that.  I'm a tree hugger but have no problem in this situation throwing bambi's mother on the grill here (once bambi is old enough to take after him/herself first).  I would partly suspect the deer is rabid, as the threat was the cat right there ontop of the fawn, while the deer tookoff and attacked a dog walking across the street on the other side of the block (given that wolves and coyotes are a threat to fawns, so are mountain lions and bobcats).

Problem 1# I have never heard of a rabid deer.  If I recall my college classes correctly...long ago....rabies is a disease exclusive to omnivores/carnivores. Deer don't fit the bill

Problem 2# That's a mule deer not a whitetail.



Problem 3# As a hunter I have a rule. Dog bothers deer...shoot dog first.

[fbWldcat]

You're right, rabies can only be contracted by omnivores or carnivores.

[mtnman]

Actually, rabies isn't limited to omnivores and carnivores.  It's a disease that can be found in almost any warm-blooded mammal.

New York State, 1993-

Rabies was confirmed in 20 deer in the state during the year, including 18 wild whitetail deer and 2 captive Sika deer (farm- bred for meat). There had been 5 rabid deer in 1992 and 3 in 1991. The percent rabid among whitetail deer submitted for testing was 4.2% in 1991(n = 72), 6.4% in 1992(n = 78), and 6.2% in 1993(n = 291). All of these cases occurred in areas experiencing raccoon rabies. Among the 272 whitetail deer submitted during 1993 with a report of the circumstances of capture, 76 had been demonstrating some signs of illness suggestive of rabies: of these 18 were rabid. There were no rabid deer among the 196 that were submitted after routine hunter-initiated contact or captured in other circumstances that did not suggest abnormal behavior in the deer.


http://www.wadsworth.org/rabies/AnnualSummaries/rabies93.htm

http://www.uga.edu/scwds/topic_index/1993/RABIES~1.pdf

[mtnman]

Problem 2# That's a mule deer not a whitetail.



Problem 3# As a hunter I have a rule. Dog bothers deer...shoot dog first.

I was waiting for someone to figure out it wasn't a whitetail, and after this long, I was getting ready to give up!  WTG!

I have two dogs, and have been a long-time deer hunter (whitetails and mulies).  Around here, we follow the same rule when it comes to dogs harassing deer.

[Becinhu]

I was waiting for someone to figure out it wasn't a whitetail, and after this long, I was getting ready to give up!  WTG!

I have two dogs, and have been a long-time deer hunter (whitetails and mulies).  Around here, we follow the same rule when it comes to dogs harassing deer.

didn't look at thread till it was on page 2.  Soon as I saw the tail it gave it away. I've seen one too many white flags in my day to confuse the 2 species. Judging by the dog's size (looks about 60-70 lbs) that doe is a brute.  She looks well over the 150 range and probably closer to 200. I have shot decent sized bucks that don't have that kinda body mass.  Even a feral dog would be hard pressed against her in that instance.

[mtnman]

didn't look at thread till it was on page 2.  Soon as I saw the tail it gave it away. I've seen one too many white flags in my day to confuse the 2 species. Judging by the dog's size (looks about 60-70 lbs) that doe is a brute.  She looks well over the 150 range and probably closer to 200. I have shot decent sized bucks that don't have that kinda body mass.  Even a feral dog would be hard pressed against her in that instance.

We have only whitetails around here, so I need to travel in order to hunt mule deer.  Whenever I do, I'm always amazed at how big and stocky mule deer are compared to our lil' whitetails.  I'd say that most of the adult mule deer does I've seen are larger through the body than most of the whitetail bucks I've seen.  I've never shot a doe mule deer (I always need to apply for tags, and I only apply for bucks) so I suppose looks could be deceiving in some cases.

I shot a cow elk a few years back with my muzzleloader (with my brother beside me, both of us with flintlocks).  She must have been confused about where the shot came from, because after the impact, she charged directly at us.  I thought she was going to go right over us, but she stopped at about 15 yards when she saw my brother lift his gun.  I couldn't believe how big she was.  I felt kind of helpless with my empty rifle, lol!

[fbWldcat]

I'll have to go look again on Rabies, I guess. It's amazing the wrong info I will say when I've been up for a full 24 hours. 

[lulu]

Go Bambi go! 

[Vudak]

I shot all 3 of my neighbors pitbull's after the pepper spray didn't work..
I don't care who you are:  Your dog threatens my kids, it's dead....
Neighbor had a problem with this..  But the cops didn't...     
 

I had a pitbull confrontation in my yard this morning.  You just have to love it when the neighbors lose track of them...

[morfiend]

I had a pitbull confrontation in my yard this morning.  You just have to love it when the neighbors lose track of them...

  This is typical of the problem,doesnt matter what kind or breed of dog any dog can bite and the owner should be held responsible.

 As much as I love dogs I wouldnt hesitate to shoot 1 if it was a threat to me or my property.I was bitten once and the result was gangrene from infection from the dogbite. I spent a month in the hospital over this and trust me I would shoot any dog I didnt know that threatened me.

  However where I live firearms are not allowed so I must rely on local laws to prevent dogs and cats from roaming free.

   

[Tr1gg22]

  This is typical of the problem,doesnt matter what kind or breed of dog any dog can bite and the owner should be held responsible.

 As much as I love dogs I wouldnt hesitate to shoot 1 if it was a threat to me or my property.I was bitten once and the result was gangrene from infection from the dogbite. I spent a month in the hospital over this and trust me I would shoot any dog I didnt know that threatened me.

  However where I live firearms are not allowed so I must rely on local laws to prevent dogs and cats from roaming free.

   

was the owner held responsible?

[morfiend]

yes!

[Babalonian]

I always forget to check the ears for the Mule deer, I amost always at first call a mule deer a white tail, be it standing 5-feet away or watching it on an internet video.

[Vudak]

  This is typical of the problem,doesnt matter what kind or breed of dog any dog can bite and the owner should be held responsible.

That's absolutely true and I agree that any dog can escape its owner and then bite someone else.  The problem is, irresponsibility begins well before that.

I'd ask prospective owners of any breed to ask themselves at least one, and possibly two questions before bringing a dog into their home:

1. Will your homeowners insurance cover incidents involving that particular breed of dog?

2.  If the answer is no, do YOU have the assets and ability to financially compensate any plaintiffs who are injured or killed by your dog? 

If the answer to BOTH is "no," then you have absolutely no business owning that breed.

I'm sick of tired of people being completely cavalier and gungho about owning the largest dog they can, all the while being completely incapable of righting any wrongs that dog may commit.  In my state, proof of insurance is a requirement to register a car, and I don't think it should be any different with an animal.

Not saying someone can't have one, but sheesh.  Take a walk through your favorite city sometime.  How many owners are essentially judgment proof?  Who is to pay the bills if something should happen?  The taxpayer?