The next plane to be introduced/updated and shown on the front page...

[Reschke]

I said where I read it about 12 years ago yet when I said where I read the info I was asked where the source got its info. Arguing with a name Im gonn a drop it because if I looked further ito it I would need the paper from the RML to satisfy you and it not that important

As one other said no one is picking on you here its just a known fact that Squadron Publications aren't the gospel...as for an RLM document yep those would be the holy grail for acceptance of an aircraft in particular one like the Do-335. The problem there is that there is probably close to a 100% chance that those documents never existed or if they did were lost at the end of the war. The RLM was meticulous in documenting kills for pilots and it often took several weeks/months or more to confirm kills for claims by a pilot.

[Guppy35]

I know I said I was gonna drop this but you asked a good question Squadron Publications is about WWII aircraft history includiing records, pilots, and markings, Ther is about 5 pages of Bibliogrophry on thier research but I dont read them, that is where they get there info.

I have any number of thier books on my shelf, along with a zillion others

A good example of one of their mistakes is their profile of Willard Millikan's P51B Mustang.  It has invasion stripes painted on it.  Corgi did a diecast of the same bird and no doubt used that source with the invasion stripes.  Problem is, Millikan was shot down in May, prior to D-Day and the invasion stripes being painted on.  There are others, but I'm at work and don't have access to my books at the moment.

They can be a good reference.  The point still remains that it's always better to have more then one source.  I tend to look for three sources independent of each other.  The Do-335 stuff is one of those bits that would be better served with more then one source.

[Karnak]

re: Mossie vs Beau:

Obviously there is crossover between the two, however consider this:

What if the Mosquito, by your argument the same as the Beaufighter, were used as a stand in for the Beaufighter in a 1941 scenario.  Tell me, what do the Germans do about said Mosquitos?  You are talking about an attack aircraft that does 357mph on the deck in AH, 40mph more than the Beaufighter does at best altitude.  Clearly the mid-1943 Mosquito has no place in a 1941 setup, the Germans couldn't do anything about it.

Though there are large crossovers in the roles and tasks assigned to the Mosquito and Beaufighter, there are significant differences.  The Mosquito was the successor to the Beaufighter in many ways, but it never fully replaced it.  As durable as the Mosquito was, it does not have the reputation for toughness the Beaufighter had.  Obviously the performance of the Mosquito is far, far superior to the Beaufighter's as can be expected from an aircraft a generation more modern.  In addition, the Beaufighter served the entire war, in all theaters other than the East Front and had none of the structural problems the Mosquito had in the CBI and Pacific Theaters.

The Mosquito and Beaufighter compliment each other in much the same way the Spitfire and Hurricane do.

[Guppy35]

<hands $20 to Karnak>

Yeah!  What he said!

[Kev367th]

Slightly OT but as you are watching this thread Dan -
The Spit IX that went to the US and returned via Iceland (where it got very striking noseart "Tolly Hello").
What happened to it on its return to the UK?
I know it was eventually scrapped, but any active service?

Ta.

[Tilt]

I struggle to see the special role that the beau would have in the MA that would enhance gameplay other than the fact that it would be another ride........... I also struggle to see how  it is a plane of sufficient popularity that it would become a signature ride (like the Brewster) or ride of preference for the vast majority of subscribers.

So in the MA it would take on the status of a Hanger Queen.

Well thats Ok. If we are to have variety then we will have some rides used less than others. The beau could be utilised in scenarios and special events designed accordingly and be quite fun.

But lets not fool ourselves that its benefit is greater than  this. There are still many rides that could be added that would be far more influential re gameplay and scenario development.

[1pLUs44]

P-40s and A6Ms 

[Wmaker]

Yeh, except Torbedo bombing, Mossie is a hell of a lot more capable aircraft than Beaufighter will ever be.

I see that in drunken haze, the little troll in me rears it's ugly head. Sorry guys. Beaufighter is one cool combat aircraft.



Anyway, about the next new plane...

I just feel that Ki-43 is the obvious choise.

Here are the new WWII planes added during AHII times:

Ki-84-Ia
B-24J
P-38G
P-38J
F4U-1A
P-47N
Bf109G-14
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire VIII
B-25C
B-25H
P-39D
P-39Q
I-16
Brewster
P-47M

...that makes 3 axis and 13 (!!) allied rides.

IMO There should be quite a few Soviet and Axis rides added before a single new Western Allied plane. I just try to look at the issue as objectively as possible. If we'd have a bloated IJN/IJAAF/VSS planeset and only few USAAF/USN rides I would be asking for them instead.

So my guess is Ki-43...or if it's gonna be a remodel it will probably be the Zekes.

[Guppy35]

I struggle to see the special role that the beau would have in the MA that would enhance gameplay other than the fact that it would be another ride........... I also struggle to see how  it is a plane of sufficient popularity that it would become a signature ride (like the Brewster) or ride of preference for the vast majority of subscribers.

So in the MA it would take on the status of a Hanger Queen.

Well thats Ok. If we are to have variety then we will have some rides used less than others. The beau could be utilised in scenarios and special events designed accordingly and be quite fun.

But lets not fool ourselves that its benefit is greater than  this. There are still many rides that could be added that would be far more influential re gameplay and scenario development.

I never claimed it to be uber.  I do believe it will get more use in the MA then you suggest.  I always tend to look at it from the history end of things and the Beau's record from 40-45 makes it a significant player missing from the game.  I'd also agree that this applies to the Ki-43.

[Fencer51]

Well we are about to start a new Scenario, and typically that is when we get an update!  (anything Japanese would be great)

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

With all due respect....HTC, listen up please , all of the oldest plane models must be updated asap, otherwise there will always be "parts' of the game that are still aceshigh1 standard.

The C-47, used and flown in almost EVERY base or port capture, used to refill gv's and the likes, and still has some of the oldest graphics.



So far, with every plane getting a face lift, they have also changed slightly in how they handle and perform, it is in that notion that even a A/C that has been "redone" is still in many ways "new".


Please htc, ditch the old models & flight models, right now you have some a/c with 2001 models and flight models, vs. 2010, bit of a split.

sry to sound so demanding, just..an idea.

[Nemisis]

Ki-84-Ia
B-24J
P-38G
P-38J
F4U-1A
P-47N
Bf109G-14
Spitfire XVI
Spitfire VIII
B-25C
B-25H
P-39D
P-39Q
I-16
Brewster
P-47M

...that makes 3 axis and 13 (!!) allied rides

I think it has to do with the fact that the Allies had more aircraft that saw a good bit of service. We pretty much have the German fighters that saw a lot of service covered (190, 109, 110). I mean hell, we have th Ta-152, and it had what, 9 kills total?

[Die Hard]

I probably has more to do with HTC trying to improve the game in a way that translates to a better selling product. Adding a plane that most people in HTC's core market doesn't know or care about is not a sound business choice. At least not as long as there are more popular choices to be made.

[Wmaker]

I think it has to do with the fact that the Allies had more aircraft that saw a good bit of service. We pretty much have the German fighters that saw a lot of service covered (190, 109, 110). I mean hell, we have th Ta-152, and it had what, 9 kills total?

There are plenty of axis aircraft to add that saw considerable use. I'm quite sure that the major reason for adding the Ta-152 was the implementation of the perk system. It came out as one of the first perk planes along with the Tempest and both were good perk plane choises at the time IMO.

I probably has more to do with HTC trying to improve the game in a way that translates to a better selling product. Adding a plane that most people in HTC's core market doesn't know or care about is not a sound business choice. At least not as long as there are more popular choices to be made.

Totally agree and there really isn't anything wrong with it. I just hope that now that we have more than just the major a/c in place for the USAAF/USN planeset, we'll be seeing more aixs aircraft/more aircraft geared toward Special Events the next time totally new airframes are added. I am very glad for the addition of the Brewster and the I-16 and given what we have in the planeset and what we don't have, I hope that this trend will continue in the near future.

[whipster22]

so far the Japanese plane set has only two aces high 2 models the N1K2-J and Ki-84 1a

It is in a sad state