HTC give us the choice!!!!!!

[FALCONWING]

So you can't fly above the dar because....?

Radiation?

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I think I'm just missing the correlation with the new radar changes and how it affects your fights.  Once someone actually sees you, the height of radar doesn't matter.  

If the problem is you can no longer fly NOE and people find you easier, it goes against any argument about liking the fight the way it was.

Enlighten me.


Again, how has the change to radar disrupted either of these?  You can still capture territory.  It may require actually capturing it now.

And, the return of the super horde?  It never left.

I don't know.  Maybe playing football with opposition that can't find your team to stop them from scoring would be fun?


wrongway

Using your football analogy...though i think it is off base, i would respond that if one football team is much bigger and stronger then the other...then the other team having OPTIONS available to even the playing field would be preferable to getting rolled nonstop and always losing...

Also using your football analogy..if someone abruptly changed the rules to limit the ease of scoring touchdwons so that it would become near impossible without the use of brute force...i.e. removed the ability to outscheme rather then purely outfight....then the game may lose interest to those who like scoring touchdowns....

To illustrate, say old school football players said "football is about running the ball over and over again and this passing thing is detracting fromt he game by allowing quick scores.  Hail Mary's should be banned and no more passes over 10 yeards so we compact the field...."  you get the idea

Hope that helps

[WMLute]

"Capturing territory through the use of air, land and sea power is the objective in Aces High." -- first line under gameplay in the Aces High manual on this website.

Where are you finding this?

What "manual" are we talking about here.

I looked for a "gameplay" link on the flyaceshigh.com homepage and didn't fine one.
(edit: found it buried in the Help section under Playing the Game in Game Information)

I DID find a "gameplay" at the AH Wiki btw..

Have fun, and place the fight above all else!

First line under Features on the AH website says...

Aces High is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war.

and Dale says...

The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.

HiTech

So I would think that combat is what this game is all about.

[bustr]

The football analogy is very good.

Problem was in this francise our NOE football teams wanted to put 66 guys on the feild and start the game hours before the 11 guys from the opposing standard team ever got out of bed. HiTech did nothing to change the 66 man team members, he just made it so the standard 11 man team could be on the feild to try and oppose the 66 man team's touch down attempts. All of the complaints seem lame up to this point because the 66 man NOE Teams are saying it isn't fair to let the 11 man standard team on the feild while they score touchdowns.

You can't have a football game in theory with only one of two teams on the feild scoring goals. The single team will win 100% of the time and never have to compete against anyone. HiTech decided to put the second team on the feild to have a competitive game. He owns the whole franchise so he can do as he see's fit.

By the way groundfeeder, I've been playing on Dale's COAD for 20 some years now. Experience counts far more than paying for the right to speak with miniscule time playing on the COAD. Ack-Ack has that experience. Many groundfeeders have come and gone on Dale's COAD because they wanted the game to be easy mode and Dale to COAD it to suit their timid temperment when they sqweeked at him. You cannot have a football game with only one large team on the feild.

[1Boner]

I'm bettin on all the trees in the new terrain design being 66 feet tall. 

[Changeup]

Changeup I appreciate your point and will likely not reply in this thread as I believe all the important points have been explained. However, I would like to finish with a response to groundfeeders post.

Sir

I think groundfeeder and the others have made their points and they are entitled to them.  That's what the forum is for...they won't change us and we won't change them on this subject so we all have our opinions...whoopdee.  Its a game and in the fine words of my friend Dodger, "ITS ABOUT THE FIGHT"....and with some discussions behind Dodger and I, I think I can safely say he means, "Any fight you can get your hands on."  Die, rub some dirt on it, re-up and get um...anything else is time you (read: anyone reading and writing in this thread) wont get back...lol...including here.

V/r

Changeup

[Delirium]

So I would think that combat is what this game is all about.

Don't bother Lute... some of the guys in here do more combat on the forums than they'll ever do in the skies of AH.

[Lusche]

Where are you finding this?

Official AH help page, topic "Game Information", subtopic "Playing the game"

http://www.hitechcreations.com/ahhelp/map.html

[Sincraft]

well, whatever they feel is needed to bring in more subs is what I think they need to do.  If I were a betting man, I would venture to say they have lost about 1500 subscriptions per month vs this time last year.  That's a pretty large chunk of their subs.  
I've seen the death spiral of several games.  Especially smaller games.  Usually drastic radical changes instead of new content is what they do before 'the end'.  I hope they are busy with something new other than airplanes and 2001-2003 graphic updates.  Something that will change how this game is played.  

OR

I hope they go on an ad blitz and bring in many new sticks.  Before doing that though, I would suggest a comprehensive method for people to understand how to play the game, in game instructions and tutorials.  From plugging in a joystick, taking off etc etc.  Explaining from the start that while this is not a simulation, shooting down aircraft is a difficult process...at first expect to be shot down many times before landing your first kills.  I've had a few people try the game out, but complained it lacked any type of guideance and was too hard.  I had to laugh at that because for me, joining and playing was a pleasant surprised over ww2online when I joined....years? ago.  But...whatever, if they think its too hard then fine, let them eat quake.  

BUT, they do need to find a way to attract new sticks.  Again, catering to the guys who log 8 hours a day in this game and on the forums is NOT..repeat NOT going to keep the game alive.  And from my seat, and in my years of experience, I'm sensing a steady decline down.  Maybe fall/winter will give it a boost though.

[FALCONWING]

Where are you finding this?

What "manual" are we talking about here.

I looked for a "gameplay" link on the flyaceshigh.com homepage and didn't fine one.
(edit: found it buried in the Help section under Playing the Game in Game Information)

I DID find a "gameplay" at the AH Wiki btw..
First line under Features on the AH website says...
and Dale says...
So I would think that combat is what this game is all about.

Lute,


goto main page and click on <game info>---<help>---<game info>---<playing the game>

tada...Lusche pointed it out once

 

edit: bah Lusche beat me to it....se above

[grizz441]

If I were a betting man, I would venture to say they have lost about 1500 subscriptions per month vs this time last year.

[Spikes]

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Hahah I haven't seen the ORLY Bird used in ages!

[bustr]

Be nice Grizz.

I vuagely remember Sincraft and HiTech have a history of Sincraft telling HiTech how he will withold his alimony payments unless HiTech agrees Sincraft knows more than he does about running his own business. Suppose its not the best way to ask to be a companies Marketing VP by dissing it's owner in public........

[AWwrgwy]

well, whatever they feel is needed to bring in more subs is what I think they need to do.  If I were a betting man, I would venture to say they have lost about 1500 subscriptions per month vs this time last year.

I'll take that bet.

My quick and dirty and, admittedly, unscientific research of June LW tours show numbers may actually be up.  If they are down, it is by about as much as I calculate they are up. 

+/- 10%?

Like I said, very much guess work.
Numbers overall were very consistent, even going back 5 years.

BUT, they do need to find a way to attract new sticks.  Again, catering to the guys who log 8 hours a day in this game and on the forums is NOT..repeat NOT going to keep the game alive.  And from my seat, and in my years of experience, I'm sensing a steady decline down.  Maybe fall/winter will give it a boost though.

I again fail to see how this change would drive off a new player as it is not a change for them.  As far as they know, it's always been this way.

Do you think a new player would be more attracted to instant, easy to find action or flying around without being able to find the enemy or, even better, sneaking around avoiding the enemy.

Can we assume someone looking for an online aircraft combat game would like to actually engage in combat?

Remember, this is the age of instant gratification.  The "I want it now" generation.  No one has the patience or the time to search around for the enemy.

What about the "I logged on for a little while and couldn't find any fights" types.  Now it's easier to find a fight.

If anything, this should actually attract new players because there's less boring, flying to find the enemy and more action.


wrongway

[WMLute]

(If you look I edited the post saying I found it buried there in the Help section)

[Bronk]

I'm bettin on all the trees in the new terrain design being 66 feet tall. 

One can only hope.