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Offline kilo2

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2010, 12:49:01 PM »
Grizz is spot on. 65 feet is really to extreme. 100-150 is the way to go. It is a challenge without being ridiculous.
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2010, 12:51:06 PM »
Kilo quit humping his ankle  :D
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 12:52:06 PM »
As asked, HiTech would have quite a coding job on his hands to makes radar WW II authentic.  Examples:

British Naval Radar Equipment of World War II
All Ranges are in Nautical Miles
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Type 79

Became Operational:  August 1938
War Status:  Replaced Type 284 in a few destroyers
Purpose:  Air Warning
Wavelength:  7 meters
Power Output:  70 KW
Range:  60
Remarks:  First British ship-based radar system.  Fitted to HMS Sheffield.

Type 271

Became Operational:  First fitted to corvette HMS Orchis in May 1941.
War Status: Used operationally in war on small ships
Purpose:  Surface Warning
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  5 - 90 KW
Range:  10 - 25
Remarks:  First microwave radar set.  Very successful and fitted to hundreds of ships.

Type 272

Became Operational:  1941
War Status: Used operationally in war on destroyers and cruisers
Purpose:  Surface Warning
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  5 - 90 KW
Range:  10 - 25
  
Type 273

Became Operational:  1941
War Status: Used operationally in war on cruisers and battleships
Purpose:  Surface Warning
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  5 - 90 KW
Range:  10 - 25
 

Type 274

Became Operational:  1944
War Status:  Replaced Type 284
Purpose:  Main Gunnery Director
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  400 KW
Range:  16

Type 275

Became Operational:  1945
War Status:  Replaced Type 285
Purpose:  AA Fire Control (DP role for Destroyers)
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  400 KW
Range:  16

Type 276

Became Operational:  1944
War Status:  Replaced Type 284 in a few destroyers
Purpose:  Main Gunnery Director
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  500 KW
Range:  N/A

Type 277

Became Operational:  Late 1943
War Status:  The First shipboard set with PPI height-finder.  Not a very good performer
Purpose:  Combined Air and Surface Warning
Wavelength:  10 cm
Power Output:  500 KW
Range:  25 - 35
 
Type 279

Became Operational:  1940
War Status:  Used on large ships.
Purpose:  Type 79 with gunnery ranging
Wavelength:  7.5 meters
Power Output:  70 KW
Range:  100
  
Type 280

Became Operational:  1940
War Status:  Based upon Army GL Mark I set.
Purpose:  Air-warning / AA control
Wavelength:  3.5 meters
Power Output:  25 KW
Range:  N/A
Remarks:  Used for a short time in 1940 - 1941 on old AA cruisers
  
Type 281

Became Operational:  December 1940
War Status:  Most widely used set in WWII
Purpose:  Air-warning
Wavelength:  3.5 meters
Power Output:  350 KW
Range:  120
Remarks:  First used on light cruiser HMS Dido
  
Type 282

Became Operational:  1941
War Status:  Operational
Purpose:  Close range AA control
Wavelength:  50 cm
Power Output:  25 KW
Range:  3.5
Remarks:  First used on HMS Prince of Wales
  

Type 283

Became Operational:  Late 1942
War Status:  Operational
Purpose:  Blind AA Barrage fire for main armament of large ships
Wavelength:  50 cm
Power Output:  25 KW
Range:  8.5
Remarks:  Fitted in almost all cruisers and large ships
  

Type 284

Became Operational:  June 1940
War Status:  Operational
Purpose:  Main gunnery for large ships
Wavelength:  50 cm
Power Output:  25 KW
Range:  10
Remarks:  First fitted to HMS Nelson.  Very successful.
  

Type 285

Became Operational:  Late 1942
War Status:  Operational
Purpose:  Long range AA gunnery
Wavelength:  50 cm
Power Output:  25 KW
Range:  8.5
Remarks:  Variant of Type 284 adapted for small ships.
  

Type 291

Became Operational:  End of 1941
War Status:  Operational
Purpose:  Air warning
Wavelength:  1.5 meters
Power Output:  100 KW
Range:  35
Remarks:  Widely used on small ships throughout WWII
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 12:55:29 PM »
Whoops...see below
« Last Edit: June 27, 2010, 01:02:18 PM by Changeup »
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2010, 01:01:56 PM »
Quote from: Changeup on June 27, 2010, 12:55:29 PM
These are the Germans and there's were "cone" radar...no linear, non-directional, non-pulse

Type
                                           FREQ                 Range                              Bearing                    Accuracy
FuMO21                                368                14-18 70 m                                                               3                                  Destroyers
FuMO22                                368                      ? - -                                                                                                        Capital ships
FuMO23                                368                      ? - -                                                                                                        Capital ships
FuMO24/25                           368                 15 - 20                                  70                             0.3                           Capital ships, destroyers
FuMO 26                               368                 20 - 25                                  70                            0.25                                 Capital ships
FuMO 30                               368                   6 - 8                                   100                              5                                   Submarines
FuMO 61 Hohentwiel-U          556                   8 - 10                                 150                              3                                   Submarines
FuMO 63, Hohentwiel-K         556 to 567       12 - 20                                 150                              2   
FuMO 81 Berlin-S                 3300                   20-30                                 100                              5                               Surv set, Prinz Eugen, destroyers, E-boats
FuMO 213 Wuerzburg-D        560                 40 - 60                                   35                            1.15                                     AA gunnery
FuMB 7 Timor - passive - -  ?
Palau - passive - - ?
FuMB 3
Bali - passive - - ?
FuMB 4 Sumatra - passive - - ?
Seetakt - -

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2010, 01:07:48 PM »
Im hoping for a new cross country text channel just for the grownups. Maybe channel 300?

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2010, 01:09:52 PM »
I really could care less, but I do tell ya that extra 35 feet of room helps tremendously...
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2010, 01:53:29 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on June 27, 2010, 01:48:37 AM
With the new radar system in place, what do you think AH crew will do next to change the arena settings?  Lower the icon range down to 3K or 1k?

Lets here your thoughts on what they might do?

Nothing for a while I would bet.  That way HTC can see what effect the radar settings changes have made. 

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2010, 02:06:10 PM »
Quote from: grizz441 on June 27, 2010, 11:34:36 AM
It ought to be in the 100-150 yd range, if you wanted to call it "Challenging" Nap of Earth.
300 to 450 feet? or did you mean 100-150 feet?


Sorry but the whole radar whine is silly.
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2010, 02:12:25 PM »
Id like to see different types of bases put it....bridgeheads ect ect and see a new strat system keeping the current one and mixing in the old one.

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2010, 02:14:32 PM »
Spent the past 2 hours researching WWII radar capabilities  :rolleyes:  While the 20 mile dar rings are a pain in the butt, Hitech is being generous by ONLY implimenting 20 miles as by late war the ranges were from 200 - 300 miles.  Could you imagine what that map would look like  :confused:  However, altitude detection......I was only able to find facts from 1939 - 1942 (early war).  In which it clearly stated ground based radar minimum alt detection was 200 - 250 feet.  Sea based dar........you figure it out, if they can pick up the conning tower of a sub...... :aok  

Between 1940 - 1945 there was one heck of a "Radar" advancment war going on behind the scenes.  While the axis powers continuously lost ground, both US & Britain took the lead and developed dar.  I finally gave up on finding late war minimum alt detection specs, but with the radar race in full swing during 42 - 45 I can only assume to 200 to 250 deck dramatically dropped by wars end too.

That being said, I agree, the 65 foot ceiling is rather low and I'd like to see a happy meduim.  Dar rings don't bother me, if they get in the way.........."Go Kill Em"  :D

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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2010, 02:24:10 PM »
I wouldn't mind a 100' deck limit. 65' is extreme IMO. THERE....I SAID IT!  :bolt:
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2010, 02:32:04 PM »
Quote from: Bronk on June 27, 2010, 09:00:37 AM
Forced break up of mega tards... I mean squads.  Squads with anything that resembles the same name forced to diff chess piece. :devil :pray
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2010, 02:37:14 PM »
pfft, all of yall are soft hearted, I vote for no radar.
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Re: What will they do next?
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2010, 04:41:39 PM »
Quote from: grizz441 on June 27, 2010, 12:38:19 PM
Meh, that's not why I'm making these points.

i know what your point is, just giving you grief for the fun of it.  I do agree that they should have the radar to 100 or 150ft.   65ft, where did they come up with that?
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