I don't get it

[ROX]

I've been reading all these threads about the new radar settings.  Before I begin I played Friday night and most of the day yesterday and they made no difference to me although for the record I think 65' is too low.

What I don't get is all the people jumping for joy over these settings because they will limit the NOE crowd.  For the most part, these same people are those who always say they don't care about winning the war and, if you are to believe them, are ACM masters who could single handedly take down an entire hoard of "skilless dweebs".  If you don't care about winning the war then why care about the NOE base takers?  I don't and haven't cared about either one.  I just want to kill people and blow suff up.

Frankly, when the NOE guys take a single base deep in the enemy backfield it just creates more fights on that part of the map.  I always thought that was a good thing.  Evidently I was mistaken.

On the other hand, if you do care about winning the war, then one of your strategies has just been taken from you.  What were once 5-10 man NOE missions will now turn into 20-30 man hoard missions.  Even I with my modest skills stood a chance against 5-10 low 110's but I don't want to be anywhere near the 30 man hoard with alt and E.

I don't know.  You guys can all spout your awsome skills and ACM prowess and jump on each other's ankles but I don't see any good coming from this.  Like I said, I don't get it.

VERY well said!!   


ROX

[ROX]

BTW: What was the ACTUAL, REALISTIC use of radar in WWII?  300, 400 feet? 

If the game is doing things that weren't done in WWII, why not intruduce satallite views of the map from space and Vietnam Era jets? 

WTG HTC--you just turned AH into a box game with people.


ROX

[The Fugitive]

Which part of this was not clear? (to whining ---> to whine)

"Tralfaz, Delirium,

If so, then ? This isn't a complete sentence. What are you trying to say here?

Call HTC to 'whining' (i not like this term but some of you seems to like it very much) pls change the rules?Are you saying you think people called HTC to complain (whine) about all of the NOE's?  If so, I don't think that is what happened. I think there may have been a few emails, but I think Hitech logged in and saw what was happening and that is what prompted him to change things.

Or BETTER use this forum to find a solution?"The forums are NOT used for solutions. Hitech is the solution. What he says is law. It's his play ground and we only rent time here. I'm sure Hitech reads enough of the boards that if he see's something that will work he may take a suggestion.




 

[grizz441]

BTW: What was the ACTUAL, REALISTIC use of radar in WWII?  300, 400 feet? 

If the game is doing things that weren't done in WWII, why not intruduce satallite views of the map from space and Vietnam Era jets? 

WTG HTC--you just turned AH into a box game with people.


ROX

I wouldn't go that far ROX.  That comment is almost as absurd as the changes they made... the irony.   

[ROX]

I wouldn't go that far ROX.  That comment is almost as absurd as the changes they made... the irony.   

Seriously, HTC say they try to do everything they can to make the game as realistic as the situations were from 1939- 1945, and now have CHANGED the historical use of radar from WWII and turn it into some hyper-accurate, down to a 5 story building perfect electronic system that DID NOT EXIST IN WWII! 

If it had, Pearl Harbor would have been a totally different story, BoB would have been a totally different story, and the raids on Berlin, Dresden, Schweinfurt, and Hamburg would/could have ALL turned out quite differently in both sides would have the unrealistic radar that HTC has now introduced into the game.

It transformed the game from being at least reasonably accurate historically to now being a joke.


ROX

[Bear76]

Which part of this was not clear? (to whining ---> to whine)

"Tralfaz, Delirium,

If so, then ?

Call HTC to 'whining' (i not like this term but some of you seems to like it very much) pls change the rules?

Or BETTER use this forum to find a solution?"




 

Most of it. Are you saying they are whining?

[Kev367th]

Please guys -

Cut lulu a wee bit of slack, English is not his first language.

Thankyou.

[Bear76]

Please guys -

Cut lulu a wee bit of slack, English is not his first language.

Thankyou.

Just asked for clarification. Don't read something that isn't there.

[Lusche]

It transformed the game from being at least reasonably accurate historically to now being a joke.

radar in AH was never "reasonably accurate".
- Range was way too short, RL early warning radar had much longer ranges than our old 12 and even the new 20 mile
- most ground radar units could give you at least a rough altitude (absolutely vital for AA or vectoring fighters in), we had none and still have none
- radar was blocked by terrain (mountain et al), our never was.
- radar min alt was always also depending on range to target, our was not and still is not.

It was always just a gameplay tool.

[oTRALFZo]

Seriously, HTC say they try to do everything they can to make the game as realistic as the situations were from 1939- 1945, and now have CHANGED the historical use of radar from WWII and turn it into some hyper-accurate, down to a 5 story building perfect electronic system that DID NOT EXIST IN WWII!  

If it had, Pearl Harbor would have been a totally different story, BoB would have been a totally different story, and the raids on Berlin, Dresden, Schweinfurt, and Hamburg would/could have ALL turned out quite differently in both sides would have the unrealistic radar that HTC has now introduced into the game.

It transformed the game from being at least reasonably accurate historically to now being a joke.


ROX

Truley accurate? Perhaps the DDAY invasion would of been simply solved by getting a bunch of cannon birds to the coast of France, taking down 60 town buildings and 8 guns. Goon command would of got orders to reup with 10 more drunks that magicly took off back from the English Channel.
Point here Rox..its a game. Was and always will be

[AAJagerX]

Funny, I hadn't gone on a NOE run for months.  They drop the deck to 65 and I went on 2 last night.  The change made it fun for me again.  Go figure...  

EDIT:  Also, we did fly over land and didn't pop dar.  It was definately challenging to pull off in a group of ten or so.

[1Boner]

Challenge the guys that don't seem to want a challenge.

There are ALOT of guys that never flew a noe in their lives that don't want a challenge.

I wonder what the new red headed step child will be in this game?

There WILL be one.

It will never end.

My hope is to somehow "force" the timid alt monkeys and score boiz to actually fight.

They are the ones who are truely ruining the game.

[JunkyII]

There are ALOT of guys that never flew a noe in their lives that don't want a challenge.

I wonder what the new red headed step child will be in this game?

There WILL be one.

It will never end.

My hope is to somehow "force" the timid alt monkeys and score boiz to actually fight.

They are the ones who are truely ruining the game.

Are you saying NOEs promote fights?

[uptown]

OK Boner, tell us why alt monkeys and score boiz ruin the game? And how has the new radar changes affected your quality of game play a negative way?

[thndregg]

Geez.. with a lot of folks here, there's this :


...and no this:


Seemingly nobody gets it.