Junky, the solution to your OP is to not get saddled by these slow birds. Don't allow yourself to be checkmated. When you run across a 'turny bird', fight him using your German Iron's strengths, slowing the fight down, take it vert, roping him out, and slash at him until you inevitably kill him. If there is a better way to irritate a hurri/zero pilot and make him reconsider his plane choice, I cannot think of it.