Turny birdys....

[Karnak]

I don't see why I would ever fear a Brewster or A6M or Hurricane when flying the Mosquito.....unless I had already messed up....

[lyric1]

I wish the Brewster carried ord that way I could bomb fighter hangars down. Then I would wait for a new thread on the BBS of Brewster's with ord killing my Fighter hangars has to stop.

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I don't see why I would ever fear a Brewster or A6M or Hurricane when flying the Mosquito.....unless I had already messed up....

mossie is appetizer before the meal

only time I get killed by mossie is when they are in the red horde, don't get me wrong I know they turn well and have great guns, but 1vs1 me in my hurri and anyone in the Mossie....wait a minute I really should not say that because I suk at shooting and it would be my luck to miss the easily set up first shot and second and third, to allow them a gun solution after I get pissed at myself for missing EVERY shot and they eventually kill me....

seriously with the same ALT at start and all that, The well flown  Mossie don't stand a chance against the well flown Hurri


I would be more then willing to put this to the Test...

[Plazus]

Anytime I see a Brewster, I disregard them. But if they are co-alt or higher, I take notice. Generally Ill try to merge with them, and sucker them into trashing their E, which happens a lot from these Brewster drivers. I just hope I dont get hoed by one and get an insta pilot wounded.

[mechanic]

mossie is appetizer before the meal

only time I get killed by mossie is when they are in the red horde, don't get me wrong I know they turn well and have great guns, but 1vs1 me in my hurri and anyone in the Mossie....wait a minute I really should not say that because I suk at shooting and it would be my luck to miss the easily set up first shot and second and third, to allow them a gun solution after I get pissed at myself for missing EVERY shot and they eventually kill me....

seriously with the same ALT at start and all that, The well flown  Mossie don't stand a chance against the well flown Hurri


I would be more then willing to put this to the Test...

A well flown mossie would rope that hurri up by it's ankles straight off the merge. The only way the hurri stands a chance is a deck merge at under 300mph. At 10k-13k co-alt merge that hurricane is in a world of hurt.  

edit: from 3k both planes on 25% fuel the mossie can dive to the deck and zoom back up to 6k in a 1G pull quite comfortably. The hurricane struggles to reach 4.5k roughly from the same dive. So even at a 3k merge the best the hurricane can hope for in the vertical is a lucky long range shot that will cost it's life if missed. A smart hurri would turn low of the merge and play the defensive game. The hurri doesnt even out-gun this opponent, a well flown mossie really should be a hurricanes worst nightmare, 1 on 1. Willing to try it out, expect I would win every fight from 3k merge unless I screw up the merge or you hit me with something i have never seen before. Would be fun. 

[321BAR]

I don't see why I would ever fear a Brewster or A6M or Hurricane when flying the Mosquito.....unless I had already messed up....

or im the a6m

[Karnak]

or im the a6m

Nope.  Sorry.  For you to have a chance at getting me I'd have to have messed up.  The A6M's performance just makes it thus.

And I like the A6M, it is on my favorites list.

[BnZs]

The dichotomy is that slow planes ARE easy to avoid and very vulnerable to certain methods, but these are the same methods that many consider dishonorable and/or boring.

EDIT: I do agree with Junky's general statement, that alot of really dedicated t'n'b planes only get many kills because something faster in the MA has already engaged the bandit and prevented them from leaving. Being engaged by a Tempest/HurriIIC wingpair is going to make you feel there is some fundamental unfairness in the situation, I don't care who you are.

[Imowface]

I used to fly the yak 9t as my main fighter in the LW arena, I got kills with it, just fought it out and waited for the person to mess up, now that I have switched to the B 239, I find I get more kills, but its because i find it way easier to exploit other peoples mistakes with, and before everyone starts coming in and asking how much fun I have picking from above the furballs, most of my fights today were 1v1 at about 7 or 8k , and I won against almost all of the 0.5 eny planes the game had, all I had to do was wait for them to make a mistake, for example, I was fighting an La7, I got a shot off at him when he tried to turn with me, he broke off and was about 5k out, no possible way for me to catch him, then he turned back around and tried turning with me again. If you dont like brewsters becase they "turn to good" dont turn with them, that seems like the most logical thing to do to me.

[321BAR]

Nope.  Sorry.  For you to have a chance at getting me I'd have to have messed up.  The A6M's performance just makes it thus.

so youre saying that if i have altitude on you that it is you messing up? the a6m can use a nice rudder-braking style dive to get on any enemy's 6 if a straight dive cannot work. And that if you miss me on the first pass and i quick roll back into you that that is another mistake you made?

And I like the A6M, it is on my favorites list.

[SlapShot]

I do agree with Junky's general statement, that alot of really dedicated t'n'b planes only get many kills because something faster in the MA has already engaged the bandit and prevented them from leaving.

Hmmm ... most of my experiences are when I am working a con in my FM2, some late war monster hot rod feels it's necessary to drop off their perch and pick the guy off my 12.

[dedalos]

WMaker is from Finland. I wouldn't rag on him for flying a Brewster no more then I would for Snailman flying a 190 or Bruv flying a Spitfire. It's their planes man. One of the coolest things about this game is talking to a guy that's flying a plane matching his native accent. If that don't make for true realism, I don't know what does.    

Who cares if it turns good or not.

Good example.  He is always the third guy into a fight.

[Lusche]

I wouldn't rag on him for flying a Brewster no more then I would for Snailman flying a 190 or Bruv flying a Spitfire.

Snailmans #1 "kills in" plane is a British one... unpatriotic traitor!   

[SlapShot]

Good example.  He is always the third guy into a fight.

Ok ... which "he" are you referring to ?

[JunkyII]

So you think it retains E too well and therefore should be "nerfed"? Wow, we are in the presence of a great genius when it comes to field of aerodynamics. HTC should hire you as a consultant so that they could get the flight models right.


Name calling won't get you anywhere. My comments had nothing to do with your film but with your comment regarding how planes climb in real life and in AHII.


Because of, ahem, *many* reasons I'm not gonna start guessing what you have "heard". But if you have a problem with the climb charts, why don't you do some testing and find out if there any discrepencies between them and the game?

If the FM is correct right now...the plane doesnt need a 30 eny....more like 15. People shouldnt get rewarded 6 perks for killing a spit16 that got alittle slower in a furball of many cons and a Brew/Hurri/Zeak come up and saddle up on them.

109G2 and a Brew are the same perk value. Brew has alot better guns, turns a ton better, and can dive with a G2. G2 yes is faster and can sustain climb better but it isnt on the extreme end of the spectrum like the Brew is with its turning.