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Offline oneway

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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 06:37:52 PM »
The funny thing is Beefcake has it right...

"Just give me my bombers and let me blow things up"...

He has his niche...he knows what makes him happy...and people like flying with him and for him because of it...

I will bet ya Beefcake has a grand old time "blowing things up"...

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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 06:47:05 PM »
The funny thing is Beefcake has it right...

"Just give me my bombers and let me blow things up"...

He has his niche...he knows what makes him happy...and people like flying with him and for him because of it...

I will bet ya Beefcake has a grand old time "blowing things up"...

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Not just Beefy but anyone who has an interest to come here and have some fun by just "flying this with the intentions of doing that".  There will be plenty of ordnance to be dropped on plentiful targets for the bombers and plenty of planes for the fighters to shoot at, fun will be had.
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 07:47:42 PM »
Thanks Oneway. I will admit I do get PO'ed sometimes during events but I try to make sure it never goes past the Squad VoX channel.

I take enjoyment in flying an aircraft that most people would "write off" as fodder and making it a viable threat to the enemy. Obviously the B25C is one of my favorite aircraft and by most standards it's nothing more than cannon fodder. It's rearward defense is horrible and can be easily exploited by most enemy aircraft, it's slow at most alts only doing 250mph, and it has a bad tendency to catch on fire. However, taking this plane through the heart of the action and coming out the other side with your mission accomplished is quite the rewarding feeling.



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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 08:46:56 PM »
The B-25s should have a great deal of fun in this upcoming scenario.  They will be doing missions just like they actually ran during "The War".   Now if we only had skip bombing available..
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 08:55:50 PM »
If there wasn't 38's in this scenario I would sign up for a B25. Your almost guaranteed to find the action flying a bomber. I imagine this scenario will be particularly fun for the 25 pilots.

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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 09:36:38 PM »
You should tag along Catus, I've already got another 80th nut on board to fly with me.  :D
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 09:59:27 PM »
now if only i could get the corsairs to escort you guys.....

now that would be fun!
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2010, 11:05:05 PM »
You should tag along Catus, I've already got another 80th nut on board to fly with me.  :D

I'm awfully tempted, but my favorite plane in squadron colors is too attractive.

Ooooh but strafer 25's will be soo fun too...
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2010, 11:10:28 PM »
:rofl  "the right thing to do."  PU-lease...  kettle call the pot black much?  Ok, seriously;

Not until I get my answer from the last scenario on how was it possible for the allies to fly around the edge of the map of norway and well within Sweedish airspace to flank their strategical targets in Norway.

I gave lengthy and detailed AAR's frame by frame of how everything went down in the last Scenario.

They show how incredibly wrong you are about much that you have said about what the Allies did.

Whether you are able to grasp or understand that, I could care less.  You obviously have the need to blame someone and rather than look at the root of the cause (the Allies did not give out the Axis orders after all) you feel the need to put the blame elsewhere.

I will not rehash this, and if you really want to glean some understanding, ask one of the CM's to give you access to the Confidential Forum.  There was a whole heck of a lot of myth and conjecture on the Axis side about what happened and that thread should shed some light on what REALLY went down.

I will say that there is a reason the Axis were beat so utterly in the last Scenario and "gamey" tactics did not play a part.


Back on topic...

The LEAST you could have done is to include the side CO's on the orders they were given and let them have a say in the matter.

Has anybody, besides me, even LOOKED at the orders for both sides yet?

There is a reason I am saying this is a terrible idea.
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2010, 11:14:52 PM »
Guys, please stop the bickerin and pissin in others' flowers. This is not the thread for that kind of discussion.

Back to topic, I would be definitely interested in attending this scenario. Now how to get Saturdays free from work...  :confused:
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2010, 11:45:11 PM »
In a world filled with chaos, order has spawned.  The Fighting Spirits have awoken!  And soon the Empire will receive the chance to fulfill its destiny in an age old game of Mortal Combat.

Are you ready to Cast your might...
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2010, 11:54:51 PM »
Tragic and preventable...it didn't have to end this way...

In other news Yankees feast on Grilled Amphibians while marching inevitably to Tokyo...

Sidebar: GI's complain for lack of toothpicks...complain of stringy frog meat....and burnt after taste...

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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2010, 12:27:12 AM »
Well Brooke is not the person to ask, as it was my decision.

I had ran this by a couple people and they agreed with me.  But that doesn't mean it was the best decision.

Do you have any data on the D-25 vs the D-23?  Or a location where I can get a look at it.  You concern about fuel has merit as well.


Sorry, I figured addressing him would cover all the bases--didn't know who did the setup...

Best place I can think of is Dean.  You can also cross-reference the assigned aircraft serials from "Kearby's Thunderbolts" if you have a copy.  The D-23 had the R-2800-59 engine, 2300BHP WOT same as the D-25, and the paddle blade prop.  Also had the wing pylons and the larger main fuel tank.  So really, other than the cockpit layout and some other controls, the only difference was the bubble canopy.  Better visibility but worse longitudinal stability and a little more drag.  Performance-wise, the D-23 and D-25 would be almost identical, whereas there's a pretty large gap between the D-11 capability and the D-23.

I like both aircraft, so I wouldn't have heartburn either way, but the D-11's in theater had larger, 110 gal belly tanks and most were retro'd with wing pylons eventually.  That Phillipine map is pretty large, and I'm figuring range will matter.

Almost all of the P-47's assigned to the 348th in this period were D-23s (maybe a few D-22s).  They began transitioning to P-51s in January 1945, with the whole group having transitioned and operational by March 1945.
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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2010, 01:20:54 AM »
Tragic and preventable...it didn't have to end this way...

In other news Yankees feast on Grilled Amphibians while marching inevitably to Tokyo...

Sidebar: GI's complain for lack of toothpicks...complain of stringy frog meat....and burnt after taste...

(Image removed from quote.)

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Re: Next scenario -- Philippine Phandango -- schedule is set
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2010, 01:59:21 PM »
Sorry, I figured addressing him would cover all the bases--didn't know who did the setup...

Best place I can think of is Dean.  You can also cross-reference the assigned aircraft serials from "Kearby's Thunderbolts" if you have a copy.  The D-23 had the R-2800-59 engine, 2300BHP WOT same as the D-25, and the paddle blade prop.  Also had the wing pylons and the larger main fuel tank.  So really, other than the cockpit layout and some other controls, the only difference was the bubble canopy.  Better visibility but worse longitudinal stability and a little more drag.  Performance-wise, the D-23 and D-25 would be almost identical, whereas there's a pretty large gap between the D-11 capability and the D-23.

I like both aircraft, so I wouldn't have heartburn either way, but the D-11's in theater had larger, 110 gal belly tanks and most were retro'd with wing pylons eventually.  That Phillipine map is pretty large, and I'm figuring range will matter.

Almost all of the P-47's assigned to the 348th in this period were D-23s (maybe a few D-22s).  They began transitioning to P-51s in January 1945, with the whole group having transitioned and operational by March 1945.

Still need to get Kearby's Thunderbolts but I had someone check their copy for me.  We were sure that the D-23s were what they were using.  Thought process was that the bubble canopy of the D-25 and the Razorback D-11 would nicely complement each other while giving some flavor of actual experience.  As it is planned one squadron will have D11s and one D25s.  Alot of people like the D11s, so I am not sure about getting rid of them 100%.  So we might just let people in both squadrons have the option to fly either one, as long as they don't switch in mid frame.  Something to consider though, thanks for your input.
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