F4u with jet pods?

[Sakoo]

Watching a WWII doc the other day and they showed an F4u taking off a carrier with jet pods (what did they call them?) underneath the fuselage just
aft of the wing root.

Was this actually done in WWII or was this more likely and early Korean War adaptation?

[fbWldcat]

RATO units?

But that is rocket, not jet.. 

[Sakoo]

Experiments were performed in 1944 with an old F4U-1 with "jet assisted take-off (JATO)" gear, featuring a small solid-fuel rocket attached on the fuselage just behind each wingroot, to allow the Corsair to get off the ground more easily with heavy loads, but it appears that JATO was rarely, if ever, used in service with the Corsair.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avf4u.html

So it was WWII, but just a test.

[BulletVI]

yes the f4u was able to carry rocket thrusters to shorten carrier take-off. They were accually developed by the british before the war as a booster for medium bomber's as we where looking in-to flyin Blenhim's off of carrier's and over the burmese jungle to save on man power and time building big enougth air fields in the jungle. We also eventually used them on Lancaster's like 617 Sdrn to take off with a new experemental bomb that was over the normal Bomb weight for take-off. But the U.S Navy saw the potenial of these rocket pods for 2 reasons on carrier borne fighter's and they where to lift of with more heavier loads like external fuel with bombs and rockets at a much safer speed. And to allow pilot's on landing if they where waved off they could wave off at the last second and still be able to climb ( a bigger and more powerful w.e.p ). Problem is tho on U.S carrier's they suffered from smouldering timber's as your carrier decks where constructed of wooden planks. Compared to the Royal Navy Steel Decks. Thus in the game we would all probaly land up sinking the CV ourself's but be great for airial dogfight's with 262's lol.

Oh and thats another reason why they had rocket booster's was to catch the new Japanese Kamikaze rocket plane bombs

[Puck]

I'm not seeing a problem. 

The carrier won't burn down to the waterline and sink until after I'm already airborne, and SOMEBODY is going to sink it anyway.  Do I get perks for sinking my own CV?

[AWwrgwy]

Oh and thats another reason why they had rocket booster's was to catch the new Japanese Kamikaze rocket plane bombs

I'm rasing the on this.

Since the acronym has "Take Off" in it, I really don't see a plane taking off with the extra drag and weight of rocket pods to save it for the new, secret, Japanese Kamikaze rocket plane that never saw service and wasn't discovered until after Japan's surrender.

Source?


wrongway

[Ack-Ack]

I'm rasing the (Image removed from quote.) on this.

Since the acronym has "Take Off" in it, I really don't see a plane taking off with the extra drag and weight of rocket pods to save it for the new, secret, Japanese Kamikaze rocket plane that never saw service and wasn't discovered until after Japan's surrender.

Source?


wrongway

He learned it in "Air Frames Engineering 101" class at his local University of DeVry annex.

ack-ack

[uptown]

He learned it in "Air Frames Engineering 101" class at his local University of DeVry annex.

ack-ack

the annex even ....i'm sorry 

[BulletVI]

He learned it in "Air Frames Engineering 101" class at his local University of DeVry annex.

ack-ack

ahem ACK ACK you'r hied must be filled wi hot air just like a hotair balloon and just as big  The Japanesse did have a kamikaze rocket plane. it was a V1 buzz bomb adapted to take a pilot and droped from below a betty. check you'r history and P*****F and stay out of disscusion's unless you have something of use to say whitch i highly dout you ever will as i see you as a know it all punk kid who oneday will get a big kick in the Ba's and the hied from the person you have just P***ED**F  shame i wont be there to see that happen     

[Lusche]

. it was a V1 buzz bomb adapted to take a pilot

With factually wrong statements like this one, it' quite ironic when you tell others to "check their history"  

[Ack-Ack]

ahem ACK ACK you'r hied must be filled wi hot air just like a hotair balloon and just as big  The Japanesse did have a kamikaze rocket plane. it was a V1 buzz bomb adapted to take a pilot and droped from below a betty. check you'r history and P*****F and stay out of disscusion's unless you have something of use to say whitch i highly dout you ever will as i see you as a know it all punk kid who oneday will get a big kick in the Ba's and the hied from the person you have just P***ED**F  shame i wont be there to see that happen     

My comment wasn't in reference to the Baika (by the way, none were built), my comment was in reference to the Corsair using JATO pods.  The only time these were used were during some experiments in 1944 using an old F4U-1 and there are absolutely no records or pilot reports of JATO ever being used operationally outside of the few experiments I already mentioned with the F4U-1. 

What was laughable about your original claim of Corsairs using JATO pods was the claim that Corsairs used them to chase down Baika bombs.   

Thanks for the laughs, Mr. Air Frames Engineer.


ack-ack

[Karnak]

I'm rasing the (Image removed from quote.) on this.

Since the acronym has "Take Off" in it, I really don't see a plane taking off with the extra drag and weight of rocket pods to save it for the new, secret, Japanese Kamikaze rocket plane that never saw service and wasn't discovered until after Japan's surrender.

Source?


wrongway

Agreed, except for the "secret, never saw service and we didn't know about it until after the war" bit.  You're wrong on that count.

[AWwrgwy]

Agreed, except for the "secret, never saw service and we didn't know about it until after the war" bit.  You're wrong on that count.

We knew about them or,

My comment wasn't in reference to the Baika (by the way, none were built)

ack-ack

I didn't do my research either.

 
 


wrongway

[321BAR]

My comment wasn't in reference to the Baika (by the way, none were built), my comment was in reference to the Corsair using JATO pods.  The only time these were used were during some experiments in 1944 using an old F4U-1 and there are absolutely no records or pilot reports of JATO ever being used operationally outside of the few experiments I already mentioned with the F4U-1. 

What was laughable about your original claim of Corsairs using JATO pods was the claim that Corsairs used them to chase down Baika bombs.   

Thanks for the laughs, Mr. Air Frames Engineer.


ack-ack

ack-ack bullet was just on my squad channel. hes been over in scotland drinking his butt off and doesnt know what hes saying literally...hes been drunk all day over there

[Angus]

Iy was used and it did destroy ships. The Japanese name was actually "Ohka"
"1 April 1945: Six "Bettys" attacked the U.S. Fleet off Okinawa. At least one made a successful attack, with its Ohka hitting one of the 406 mm (16 in) turrets on West Virginia, causing moderate damage. Alpine, Achernar, and Tyrrell were also hit by kamikaze aircraft, but it is unclear whether any of these were Ohkas from the other "Bettys". None of the "Bettys" returned."
12 April 1945: Nine "Bettys" attacked the U.S. Fleet off Okinawa. Mannert L. Abele was hit, broke in two, and sank. Witnessed by LSMR-189 CO James M. Stewart. Jeffers destroyed an Ohka with AA fire 45 m (50 yd) from the ship, but the resulting explosion was still powerful enough to cause extensive damage, forcing Jeffers to withdraw. Stanly was attacked by two Ohkas. One struck just above the waterline, with the charge punching through the other side of the hull before detonating, causing little damage to the ship, and the other Ohka narrowly missed and crashed into the sea, knocking off the Stanly's ensign in the process. One Betty returned.
4 May 1945: Seven "Bettys" attacked the U.S. Fleet off Okinawa. One Ohka  hit the bridge of Shea, causing extensive damage and casualties. Gayety was also damaged by a near-miss by an Ohka. One "Betty" returned.