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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 01:13:22 PM »
With factually wrong statements like this one, it' quite ironic when you tell others to "check their history"  ;)

Ahem Gentlemen and Laddie's And Disbeliever's.

Here is proof of the Japanese Kamikaze Rocket Plane that the F4u Loaded with Rocket booster's was to catch.



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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 01:14:53 PM »
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kamikaze-ManchesterMSI_crop.jpg


Click this link to view it and be proven wrong :)  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol :x  :x  :salute :salute  :salute  :banana: :airplane:
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2010, 01:21:07 PM »
With factually wrong statements like this one, it' quite ironic when you tell others to "check their history"  ;)

Actually the japs with their alliance with Germany received the V! And V2 rocket plans. But the japs only saw that by redeveloping the V1 buzz bomb to a piloted plane was far better to sink U.S Ships.
In fact the Germans Where going to upgrade the V1 to take a pilot as-well but Hitler Forbid the Idea Of Manned suicide missions.
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 03:38:15 PM »
You're confusing the Baika and the Ohka (Allied nickname: Baka Bomb) rocket powered flying bombs.  The Ohka (Baka) was designed by Ensign Mitsuo Ohta and his students at the University of Tokyo and was not, repeat, not a copy of the Fieseler Fi 103R or the unmanned V-1.  The Ohka was powered by 3 solid rocket powered engines and later models were designed to use thermojet engines.

The Baika's design was a directly influenced by the Fieseler Fi 103R, as it was pretty much a direct copy though with some improvements in the Japan's version and none were built by war's end.

For reference, the Ohka and Baika.


V-1 and Fieseler Fi 103R


For an "Air Frames Engineer", you should have already known this and a simple layman such as myself shouldn't have to to correct the 'expert'.


In fact the Germans Where going to upgrade the V1 to take a pilot as-well but Hitler Forbid the Idea Of Manned suicide missions.

Incorrect.  The Baika was directly influenced by Germany's manned V-1 which was intended to be used in suicide missions.  Read about Germany's "Leonidas Squadron" that was formed to fly the Fieseler Fi 103R, it was only the intervention of KG 200's commander that this unit didn't see widespread use, only 35 pilots flew the Fi 103R on suicide missions against bridges during the Battle of Berlin.  Each member had to sign a declaration that said, "I hereby voluntarily apply to be enrolled in the suicide group as part of a human glider-bomb. I fully understand that employment in this capacity will entail my own death."

Here is proof of the Japanese Kamikaze Rocket Plane that the F4u Loaded with Rocket booster's was to catch.

Please post any proof of a Corsair using JATO pods other than the tests on an old F4U-1 that I mentioned?  The Corsair never used JATO pods operationally, that means outside of the couple of experimental test take offs, a Corsair never had JATO rockets mounted.  So, please explain how a plane could have used JATO pods when it never carried them in the first place?

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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2010, 04:38:05 PM »


Please post any proof of a Corsair using JATO pods other than the tests on an old F4U-1 that I mentioned?  The Corsair never used JATO pods operationally, that means outside of the couple of experimental test take offs, a Corsair never had JATO rockets mounted.  So, please explain how a plane could have used JATO pods when it never carried them in the first place?

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I never said that the F4u Ever used the rocket pods in actual combat but they where considered but thankfully the U.S Navy And U.S Marine's push into jap held teritorys was fast enougth to capture supply stations of the JATO. and just becouse i am an airframe's engineer doesnt mean that i get my history correct so live with it and thanks for helping  :salute

( P.S i fix and service modern jet's and do know a little but not as much as my great uncle doe's about WW2 airframes
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 05:26:13 PM »
Hey bullet, do you have a nervous twitch causing you to put multiple emoticons in your post, or do you just like to over use them?


The Ohka (cherry blossom I believe)  was used in combat, the Baika wasn't. Seven US ships were damaged or sunk by Ohkas throughout the war.
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2010, 05:29:40 PM »
See Rule #11
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2010, 06:48:50 PM »
Hey bullet, do you have a nervous twitch causing you to put multiple emoticons in your post, or do you just like to over use them?

it's a common side effect of scorpion  bites.

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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2010, 11:06:17 PM »
Actually the Japanese with their alliance with Germany received the V! And V2 rocket plans. But the Japanese only saw that by redeveloping the V1 buzz bomb to a piloted plane was far better to sink U.S Ships.
In fact the Germans Where going to upgrade the V1 to take a pilot as-well but Hitler Forbid the Idea Of Manned suicide missions.

I never said that the F4u Ever used the rocket pods in actual combat but they where considered but thankfully the U.S Navy And U.S Marine's push into Japanese held teritorys was fast enougth to capture supply stations of the JATO. and just becouse i am an airframe's engineer doesnt mean that i get my history correct so live with it and thanks for helping  :salute

fixed your bad habit of using derogatory slang names for the Japanese society......
 in fact I am surprised you did not use the N word for where you typed Germans


what surprises me is he referenced "wikipedia" of all places..... bet he uses The History channel for references as well.....

what does not surprise me is how many people come to these forums and never read the freaking forum posting rules...... or if they do read them they do not care to follow them......

( P.S i fix and service modern jet's and do know a little but not as much as my great uncle doe's about WW2 airframes

so how long did it take you to get your A&P Licenses?  how much OJT and how much college before you took the exam?

ah and what types of Engines or what types of Airframes are you checked off on?   how old are you again?



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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2010, 01:18:46 AM »
I'm not sure about JATO for the F4U. But some were outfitted with ice cream makers.


Late in the war one squadron in the Palaus found the action slow, and to stave off boredom the ground crews rigged 5 gallon cans with a wind-driven spinner connected to a mixing rotor, and hooked up one under each wing of an F4U. A pilot would take the aircraft up to high altitude for a given period of time and then come back to base with the ice cream.

May be true maybe not, I wasn't there, but it is a nice story. Probably true though.
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2010, 02:22:36 AM »

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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2010, 02:45:07 AM »
last emote's where typed :lol :rofl

It's WERE, WERE ,WERE, WERE!

One would think a highly educated airframes engineer such as yourself would use proper grammar, and limit himself in the emote department...

I personaly would not climb into anything designed by a man who does not have a basic grasp of his first language.
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2010, 09:45:23 AM »
The Wiki-article about Ohka (Cherry Blossom) is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohka
As for the manned Fiesler, AFAIK it was for testing. Hanna Reitch (sp?) was one of the test pilots. If I recall right she asked Hitler the question about manned missions.
Here is a wee:
"in her autobiography Fliegen, Meine Liebe, Reitsch recalled other test pilots had been killed or gravely injured while trying to land the piloted version of the V1 (known as the Reichenberg), so she made test flights late in the war to learn why and found the craft's extremely high stall speed was thwarting test pilots, who had no experience landing at extremely high speeds. Reitsch's background with the very fast Me163, along with simulated landings at a safe high altitude, led her to a successful landing of the Reichenberg, but only at over 200 km/h."
Article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb
Then the merge:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb#Japanese_versions

Anyway, the Ohka was used and did sink ships. Or is Wiki just crap?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mannert_L._Abele_%28DD-733%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Hugh_W._Hadley_%28DD-774%29
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stanly_%28DD-478%29
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2010, 02:01:15 PM »
It's WERE, WERE ,WERE, WERE!

One would think a highly educated airframes engineer such as yourself would use proper grammar, and limit himself in the emote department...

I personaly would not climb into anything designed by a man who does not have a basic grasp of his first language.
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Re: F4u with jet pods?
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2010, 02:22:05 PM »
     I thought it pretty interesting that the Ohka possessed by the NASM was actually a jet rather than
a rocket. 
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