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Offline hitech

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2000, 06:37:00 PM »
I had almost fogoten about the aw full stall decent, push stick forward and do a 90 deg bull out corner at 400 mph.

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2000, 11:51:00 PM »
 
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Sorry Haha,

Wrong again. The stall-spin to drop from alt to capture the field is not a cheat. We used it many times. See how the uninformed can start a cheater cheater myth. Just because you haven't been taught the maneuver doesn't mean it's a hacked plane. Throw in warps and most players have no idea if a player's cheating.

Wrong again? Uh may I ask when I was wrong before or are you just trying to sound like an {fill in word}?? If it isn't actually a hack then its understandable.. however it isn't realistic at all now is it ? It's just exploiting the flight model in the game.

btw my previous comment still applies people do and will hack online games, just to "varying" extents.. exploiting is as bad as hacking in my opinion.


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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2000, 08:39:00 AM »
I went from 15k to 0 feet in less than 15 sec last night and I wasn't cheating, course the fact that Ypsolon had just shot both of my wings clean off might have had somthing to do with it.  

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2000, 11:23:00 AM »
Wrong Morbid, want to find hacks for online flt sims, ya dont have to look far. Its sad and true. I am glad for you that the particular brand of Flt Sim you have played has not been infested with Hacks but some paying games have been. no question, no lie, film available (600mph Hurricanes, flyin backwards and shooting,30k climbs in 4seconds). Raider's article to Combat Sim was written after some very obvious and unadressed hacks occuring in Fighter Ace. (snicker if you want)But the general feeling was if it happens here where won't it occur? And that is not "junk" it is a voice of concern.
I am optimistic that the community that is growing in AH will be a supportive (if competitive =) ) and an honest one. In the meantime how does that gag command go?  

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2000, 11:45:00 AM »
I personally don't think that cheating will be the end of AH, FA, WB, or AW.

I have seen a film of a Yak-3 doing 400+ vertical for tens of thousands of feet, and I also had the url for the cheat.  I never went to the site and tried it for myself because I don't trust hacker sites.

In truth, FA cheats *have* been dealt with (it really takes time for go through the red tape).  The most recent 500+mph Hurricane incidents are an example.  These people are now either off the game or don't use cheats anymore.  

Of course any hacker with enough sense (is that actually possible?) would hack with subtle cheats, but multiple films and different viewpoints, and enough time, would even disclose those cheats.

I have no idea about hacking any other games, I suppose it could be true but I highly doubt it is widespread.  People will eventually get caught.

While I may not agree with the "hysteria" tone of this report, I do agree with parts of the last paragraph:  I hope most online sims do have a way to detect cheats.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2000, 12:40:00 PM »

 Dont forget one of the main reasons that FA draws cheats to itself. In FA and at 10/mo, you get more of a 'gaming' crowd.  They're not into flight fidelity or WWII aircombat simulating. Go ahead and look at the numbers in the arcade setting arenas - be it AW or FA. Embarassingly that is where most the numbers are. The fighting in there resembles more of X-wing and Tie fighter space combat. There is this need in a small minority in these arenas is to try and have more fun for themselves at the expense of all the others. So much so to the point that when they grow bored 'gaming' the sim they'll try to cheat. Sooner or later they *will* develop cheats, then they will use these hacks and then they HAVE to pass it out because hacks and cheats habitually need the attention this discovery gets them.
 Why not? It's only 10/mo. It's a joke to them. they get a kick out of it. No harm doen right?
 In "AH" no one is saying that there will or could never be a cheat. But there's not many who will bother coughin up $30/mo to find a way to cheat and get 10 40mm on an ME-262.
 Folks in the beta have gamed the sim - with the gunner bailing from a B17 bug. That was in beta and that was fixed.
 Any bugs like this discovered in production I have faith that they will be quickly squashed because one; the HiTech Creations folks do not have to monitor upmty thousand idjits as they do on the ZONE. And two; they'll not risk having many customers cancel a $30/mo subscription because someone found a way to fly in a Tiger tank or fly off the edge of the arena and appear invisible in the next one.
 There's no reason to find hacks and cheats
in AH because....it will impress not a single soul in here.

 -Westy