Fighting the Spitfire Mk XVI

[TonyJoey]

If you know how to use flaps, basically every plane can beat the spit XVI.

38, mossie, A-20, even these big hunks of metal can outturn a spixteen with the use of flaps.

Only if youre in a 1v1 situation though. It's stupid to bleed off energy to pull flaps if theres more than 1 con around.

  Umm, No. Only the 38 would have even a chance of outturning the 16 (of the planes you mentioned) because of it's flap deployment at 250. But the fight slows down fast from there, and the spit16 will come around with ease. Just because you outturned 8675309 once in an a20, doesn't mean it's the norm.

[Kazaa]

Umm, No. Only the 38 would have even a chance of outturning the 16 (of the planes you mentioned) because of it's flap deployment at 250. But the fight slows down fast from there, and the spit16 will come around with ease. Just because you outturned 8675309 once in an a20, doesn't mean it's the norm.

QFT.

[sandwich]

Hey, that's just what I do.

And unless the spit uses flaps, which it rarely ever will, All the planes with flaps will outurn the spixteen.

Even the A-20 and the mosquito.

It's better not to get into a turning fight with them, but If you absolutely, positively, have to, then these planes will do it if you use flaps.

I use spit VIII's and IX's alot though so I usually dont have to deal with a turning problem.

[mechanic]

Snail covered it well. The 14 is extremely unstable, rolls poorly, and is about as strong and sturdy as a toothpick. The 16 is a Jack of all trades plane that rolls extremely well, climbs almost on par with K4, can dive well, and is an extremely stable gun platform at low speeds. While it does fall apart like the rest of them, I think the 16 is much easier to fly than the 14.


PS: Trying to fit my name in a message is much tougher than lute is

I agree Joey, the stability of the mark 14 is terrible from a gunnery and stalls point of view. The mark 16 is alot better but none surpass the MkV


PS: no kidding

[Plazus]

If you know how to use flaps, basically every plane can beat the spit XVI.

38, mossie, A-20, even these big hunks of metal can outturn a spixteen with the use of flaps.

Only if youre in a 1v1 situation though. It's stupid to bleed off energy to pull flaps if theres more than 1 con around.

I think you are over exaggerating their performance with flaps down. The Spit 16 will outturn all of those aircraft in both directions. Only a noob in a Spit 16 cant outturn a A20, P38, or Mossie. If you are in the P38 or Mossie, you will want to stall out the Spit 16 first and roll over for the kill. Never fight the Spit 16 on his own terms, and that is turn fighting.

The Mossie, however, can outturn (full flaps in the horizontal) all of those twin engined aircraft except for, perhaps, the Bf110. I know that a Mossie can outturn an LA7 with 25% fuel and reduced ammo.

[cobia38]

 A-20 will eat a 16 in a stall fight

[Ack-Ack]

I think you are over exaggerating their performance with flaps down. The Spit 16 will outturn all of those aircraft in both directions. Only a noob in a Spit 16 cant outturn a A20, P38, or Mossie. If you are in the P38 or Mossie, you will want to stall out the Spit 16 first and roll over for the kill. Never fight the Spit 16 on his own terms, and that is turn fighting.

He's not exaggerating, rather more of a generalization devoid of any specifics.  In certain situations, a P-38 can out turn a Spitfire Mk XVI but as long as the Spitfire Mk XVI (or any Spitfire) is allowed to stay in the medium speed range (where the Spitfire pretty much out performs most planes in AH) then the P-38 driver can only hope that his death is quick and painless.  However, get the Spitfire Mk XVI (and any other Spitfire) out of it's comfort zone, it's a far more manageable fight for the P-38 driver.  Not saying it will guarantee victory 100% of the time, it will at the least give the P-38 driver a fighting chance at coming out on top.

ack-ack

[BulletVI]

He's not exaggerating, rather more of a generalization devoid of any specifics.  In certain situations, a P-38 can out turn a Spitfire Mk XVI but as long as the Spitfire Mk XVI (or any Spitfire) is allowed to stay in the medium speed range (where the Spitfire pretty much out performs most planes in AH) then the P-38 driver can only hope that his death is quick and painless.  However, get the Spitfire Mk XVI (and any other Spitfire) out of it's comfort zone, it's a far more manageable fight for the P-38 driver.  Not saying it will guarantee victory 100% of the time, it will at the least give the P-38 driver a fighting chance at coming out on top.

ack-ack

Yes like Ack-Ack is saying the Spitfire has it's comfort zone's like all other aircraft. And take any aircraft out of these zone's and it's either game over for that particular aircraft. The greatest example of aircraft comfertzone's is the situation and tactic's used by early Wildcat and A6m Driver's ( pilots ). If an F4F fought the A6m on it's terms ( the F4F ) The F4F was very effective against the Zero. But take the F4F out of it's Comfort Zone ( Tactic's ) The Zero would Rule the F4F.

And by comfort zone's i mean the best and proven tactics for the individual aircraft.

And as we have seen the likes of an F4F in the game using the right tactic's for the plane you can still compete with faster and more manoeuvrable aircraft.
At the end of the day the plane is a tool of war. And it's up-to the craftsman to get the best result's from his tool's.

And some people may argue over which is the best aircraft for dealing with another aircraft. BUT REMEMBER an aircraft is only as good as the pilot allows it to be and wants it to be. In the end it's the man/woman who flys it that decides  hey I'm going to beat you by fighting my way.   

[BiPoLaR]

A-20 will eat a 16 in a stall fight

care to test that? im ya huckleberry

[LLogann]

I haven't read much of this great thread..........  But I'll tell you this.......

If I'm on an egotrip and want my name in lights, I default to the 16.

[oakranger]

A-20 will eat a 16 in a stall fight

There are vary few people that can do that, that is you.

[Ack-Ack]

There are vary few people that can do that, that is you.

The only other two that I know that are capable of going toe to toe with a Spitfire mk XVI in an A-20G is Widewing and snaphook.

ack-ack

[waystin2]

care to test that? im ya huckleberry

Would be fun to watch.  We all know that only 3-4 folks in this entire game could give a good Spit 16 pilot a run for their money in an A-20.

[BulletVI]

The only other two that I know that are capable of going toe to toe with a Spitfire mk XVI in an A-20G is Widewing and snaphook.

ack-ack

 Wow Ack-Ack you not commenting on my post WoW or are just ignoring me???

Sorry Ack-Ack i couldn't resist saying it  

[cobia38]

care to test that? im ya huckleberry

 sure i,ll go a few rounds