Fighting the Spitfire Mk XVI

[BaldEagl]

If you know how to use flaps, basically every plane can beat the spit XVI.

38, mossie, A-20, even these big hunks of metal can outturn a spixteen with the use of flaps.

Only if youre in a 1v1 situation though. It's stupid to bleed off energy to pull flaps if theres more than 1 con around.

I want in on this one too.  DA; you try every plane against me in a Spit XVI then report back on which ones you out-turned me in.

[Bear76]

Wow, you must be good!

In a horde maybe 

[Bruv119]

I want in on this one too.  DA; you try every plane against me in a Spit XVI then report back on which ones you out-turned me in.

hmm lets see,  A6M2, A6M5, brewster, c202, D3A, B5N, 109 E,109 F4, F4U1, 1A, 1D,  F6F, Hurri 1, hurri 2c, I16, Ki84, seafire, Spit 1/5/8/9,  SBD, 

In flat turns I say all of the above may have missed a few.

[sandwich]

I want in on this one too.  DA; you try every plane against me in a Spit XVI then report back on which ones you out-turned me in.

I'll say it now, Spit IX, Spit VIII, Spit V, Spit I, Seafire, A6M, 109F, 109E, F4F, FM2, F4U-1A, Maybe F4U-4, P-39D I think, Maybe Q also, P-38G if I have a great day, La-5 maybe, La-7 Maybe, Fokker D7, Fokker DrI, Sopwith Camel, the other WW1 plane, and I think I'm leaving a couple out.

That's my pre duel predictions.

What time do you want to do this? I'd like to see how I match up against an accomplished pilot flying the spixteen.

[BaldEagl]

I'll say it now, Spit IX, Spit VIII, Spit V, Spit I, Seafire, A6M, 109F, 109E, F4F, FM2, F4U-1A, Maybe F4U-4, P-39D I think, Maybe Q also, P-38G if I have a great day, La-5 maybe, La-7 Maybe, Fokker D7, Fokker DrI, Sopwith Camel, the other WW1 plane, and I think I'm leaving a couple out.

That's my pre duel predictions.

What time do you want to do this? I'd like to see how I match up against an accomplished pilot flying the spixteen.

I'll be on tonight... maybe eightish at the latest.

[sandwich]

I'll be on tonight... maybe eightish at the latest.

Ok.

Pm me in game when you get online.

I'm 49Drunk in game.

[BaldEagl]

hmm lets see,  A6M2, A6M5, brewster, c202, D3A, B5N, 109 E,109 F4, F4U1, 1A, 1D,  F6F, Hurri 1, hurri 2c, I16, Ki84, seafire, Spit 1/5/8/9,  SBD, 

In flat turns I say all of the above may have missed a few.

I think we could have all named most of those so I won't be surprised.

I'll say it now, Spit IX, Spit VIII, Spit V, Spit I, Seafire, A6M, 109F, 109E, F4F, FM2, F4U-1A, Maybe F4U-4, P-39D I think, Maybe Q also, P-38G if I have a great day, La-5 maybe, La-7 Maybe, Fokker D7, Fokker DrI, Sopwith Camel, the other WW1 plane, and I think I'm leaving a couple out.

That's my pre duel predictions.

What time do you want to do this? I'd like to see how I match up against an accomplished pilot flying the spixteen.

Where's the Mossie, A-20 and P-38?

[Plazus]

Let me know when you guys are going to test this. Id like to help out too.

PM me in game 82Plazus

[BiPoLaR]

 sure i,ll go a few rounds

shoot me a pm when youll be on or when is best for you

[BulletVI]

Let me know when you guys are going to test this. Id like to help out too.

PM me in game 82Plazus

Hell i will even help by flying a Spit 8 Against a Spit 16 to show it up     

[WMLute]

Hell i will even help by flying a Spit 8 Against a Spit 16 to show it up     

I'm thinkin' no, no you won't...

[BaldEagl]

Well, we fought several fights.  As the XVI pilot I tried to remain in relatively, but not total, flat turns.

Sandwitch tried the Mossie, 109G-14, F4F-4, Spit IX and P-38G.  About the only fight that he was able to easily out-turn me in was the A6M2.

Here's a film of the fight against the F4F-4 which shows just how slow and how tightly a Spit XVI can turn.  I almost out-turned him in this one:

http://www.mediafire.com/?z2zz4ejjiry

[Ack-Ack]

Well, we fought several fights.  As the XVI pilot I tried to remain in relatively, but not total, flat turns.

Sandwitch tried the Mossie, 109G-14, F4F-4, Spit IX and P-38G. 

Of course he's going to be out turned in a P-38G doing flat turns against a Spitfire Mk XVI or against any other Spitfire.  Someone that knows how to fight in a P-38 won't be doing flat turns against a Spitfire, we'll be using vertical turns and maneuvering to get an angle for the shot.  Not to knock on sandwich but you didn't fight someone that knows the P-38 all that well if he tried to flat turn fight a Spitfire.

ack-ack

[Guppy35]

Of course he's going to be out turned in a P-38G doing flat turns against a Spitfire Mk XVI or against any other Spitfire.  Someone that knows how to fight in a P-38 won't be doing flat turns against a Spitfire, we'll be using vertical turns and maneuvering to get an angle for the shot.  Not to knock on sandwich but you didn't fight someone that knows the P-38 all that well if he tried to flat turn fight a Spitfire.

ack-ack

I've been in a few of those right on the deck with 16s where the stall horn is blaring and you are waiting to see who stalls out first.  9 out of 10 times the Spit 16 drops a wing first and I can get em in my 38G

[BaldEagl]

Of course he's going to be out turned in a P-38G doing flat turns against a Spitfire Mk XVI or against any other Spitfire.  Someone that knows how to fight in a P-38 won't be doing flat turns against a Spitfire, we'll be using vertical turns and maneuvering to get an angle for the shot.  Not to knock on sandwich but you didn't fight someone that knows the P-38 all that well if he tried to flat turn fight a Spitfire.

ack-ack

Sandwitch was using the vert in most of our fights while I remained mostly in flat turns.  The exception to that was if I got behind him, then I would also use the vert to follow him.

As to the Spit IX for those who claim an VIII or IX will eat a XVI for lunch in a turn, it was virtually a stalemate.   IIRC Sandwitch eventually augered in that one when the fight got slow.

For a guy who's only been playing for around a year Sandwitch did a great job.  Could a more seasoned pilot have done better?  Probably but he accounted for himself well and is one we'll all be watching out for in the future.   

Sandwitch.  Fun fights.  I'd be totally comfortable with you on my wing.