Spain or Netherlands?

[Sombra]

From this:

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/spanish-goalkeepers-girlfriend-distracts-british-press/

to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kLyCoEiqj0

[Mus51]

What a BS game. The game was pretty much played when the referee gave Robben a yellow card while he actually should have been giving him a penalty.

I'm convinced the referee was either corrupt or blind at some points.



Oh and PLEASE!! Get rid of Van Persie! He did absolutely nothing this World cup.

[guncrasher]

What a BS game. The game was pretty much played when the referee gave Robben a yellow card while he actually should have been giving him a penalty.

I'm convinced the referee was either corrupt or blind at some points.



Oh and PLEASE!! Get rid of Van Persie! He did absolutely nothing this World cup.

he got a card because he kicked the other guy.  he should've been expelled, actually lots of players should've been out of the game.

semp

[DA98]

What a BS game. The game was pretty much played when the referee gave Robben a yellow card while he actually should have been giving him a penalty.

I'm convinced the referee was either corrupt or blind at some points.



Oh and PLEASE!! Get rid of Van Persie! He did absolutely nothing this World cup.

Cry me a river. At least two of your butchers (Van Bommel & De Jong) should have been out of the game at the half time.

A well deserved defeat, IMHO, since the dutch team approached the match as a karate tournament, not as a FIFA World Cup Final.

Karate Kid De Jong:



Images speak for themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CekIw5moE5c


It's a shame that a country well known for it's style playing football (style inherited by FC Barcelona and, ironically, Spain in it's current incarnation) played a World Cup Final like a Regional League match. The germans at least lost the semi final on one of the cleanest matches of the tournament, for which they deserve -IMHO- respect and recognisement. They never reverted to the kind of brute playing that was seen yesterday.

So yes, well deserved defeat.

[Bruv119]

Yeah, all he did was gift Spain a free goal kick that set up their goal.   

C'mon even 12yr old rec league refs don't screw up calls like that, and if the head official didn't see the deflection off the Spanish wall (though I can't see how anyone could miss it.)  The line judge sure as heck saw it.

Something's very fishy with the officiating. 

gift a goal kick ?     don't make me laugh. 

you can't just score from the other end of the field.   The bad dutch defending led up to the goal not the referee's decision about a corner.   A bad delivery from a corner can lead to an instant counter attack.

I would give robben a yellow card too just for looking at me !   Call it karma for conning 100's of referee's every time he goes to ground so easily.

[Dragon]

Well it wasn't clean, their were several blown calls on each side, the players acting could have been better, but I enjoyed watching the game.


Spain   

[Masherbrum]

gift a goal kick ?    don't make me laugh.  

you can't just score from the other end of the field.   The bad dutch defending led up to the goal not the referee's decision about a corner.   A bad delivery from a corner can lead to an instant counter attack.

I would give robben a yellow card too just for looking at me !   Call it karma for conning 100's of referee's every time he goes to ground so easily.

I've seen it done a few times, when I played Soccer, in the WC and in the Premier League.   Goalies scoring on their goal kicks.

[Bruv119]

I've seen it done a few times, when I played Soccer, in the WC and in the Premier League.   Goalies scoring on their goal kicks.

ok let me rephrase,  When everyone is concentrating and in their correct positions.  (Other keeper included) you can't score from a goal kick. 

Only if the defenders let it bounce and the striker manages to get in on it.   This is what we call "route1" football that happens a lot in Sunday league, the old hoof it up the pitch and hope the other team can't deal with it.

[Simba]

<emerges from sleep with a monumental hangover>

Viva Espana, what a party! Well done, amigos, football won, not brawling. And here's to the hosts, South Africa, for a great job all round.

<hoists glass>

Cheers!

<falls back into bed, resumes snoring>

 

[Masherbrum]

On a Goal Kick, the ball is in play upon leaving the Goal Area.   In fact, not even two years ago a goalkeeper timed the bounce wrong and a goalie scored a goal as the ball bounced over the opposing goalkeeper.

[CyranoAH]

If I'm not mistaken, the opposing goalie or any other player has to touch the ball first if the goal is to count.

[druski85]

If I'm not mistaken, the opposing goalie or any other player has to touch the ball first if the goal is to count.

Goal kicks are now (have been for 13 years) direct and therefore do not need to touch the opposing keeper.  As a keeper, I generally laugh when they are put on target.  It reminds me of when people immediately take a shot from center field when play is started.  Even if I'm out of position, there's a good deal of time to get back into the net to make a save, no matter where it is put. 

Regarding the yesterday's match, it was absolutely pathetic. (In my mind) Far too much whining, far too many cards.  The dutch did play dirty, which was disappointing. However, it sure wasn't a clean game on the other side of the ball either.  All in all, the most disappointing final I've watching in a long time. 

What it comes down to is that Octopus has one crazy talent.   

[ozrocker]

Congrats to Spain! At least it goes to a Country who has never won it. Was a very badly(dirty) played game by both teams. Record for most penalties. Non calls were a big thing too.

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[shiv]

If I'm not mistaken, the opposing goalie or any other player has to touch the ball first if the goal is to count.

That's a throw-in actually.  Hardly ever see that one though. 

But the point being made here is the deflection off the Dutch free kick that should have led to a corner, and the then Spain scored immediately following the (incorrect) goal kick.  Can't make too big a case for that I'm afraid, as much as I was rooting for the Dutch. It's a 90 minute game (or 120 in yesterday's case) and the bad calls should hopefully even out. Ineista wasn't really marked on the play and that's on the Dutch defenders, not the ref.

[Sombra]

For what it's worth, Iniesta's (the scorer's) knees after the match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ATB32MOcg


...

In other news:

Holland stars Wesley Sneijder and Robin van Persie hit out at Howard Webb for 'robbing' them as Spain claim glorious triumph


If they hurry up, maybe they can still save the season.