Time for a new American tank?

[fbWldcat]

I posted a thread a while back about the Char B1, no one said much about it. I would love to see the Italian P-40 added to the game.

Speaking of the M-18 where is 321BAR? 

[AWwrgwy]

thats the super pershing, only 4 super pershings saw action during the Battle of the Rhine.


the pershings saw action very late in the war, but they did see action, and they were in squadron (armored group) strength

There were one or two Super Pershings.   20 M-26s shipped to Europe saw combat.

Research  

perk it like a Tiger.

Pershing in action

Just the shooting, no sound, Higher quality

I recently read an interesting quote about Italian Tanks in Africa being worthless.  More research.


wrongway

[STXAce8]

Speaking of the Italian plane set we do need the RE2005.

[Motherland]

Speaking of the Italian plane set we do need the RE2005.

I'm pretty sure that the Re 2005 was the lowest ranked of the 5 series, with the G.55 being the highest and the MC.205 being 'in the middle'.... there's surely more important Italian aircraft than last-ditch 5 series aircraft.

[AKP]

We have 2 US versions of the Sherman, 1 UK version of the Sherman, 2 versions of the T-34, 1 Panzer, and 1 Tiger...  as much as I like American armor, I dont think we need any more right now.  If anything, some light, early war tanks like:

Panzer III's
British Valentine
Japanese Type 95
etc...

...Would be nice to see.

[E25280]

Echoing a few other sentiments here, the Pershing would be very close in game terms to a Tiger, so it wouldn't add much to the variety of GVs available.  Light tanks, early war tanks, and German/Russian tank destroyers (i.e. the turretless kind) would add more variety and be preferable IMO.


And to the OP . . . it is T U R R E T . . . there is no "N" in turret.  Thank you.

[AWwrgwy]

Echoing a few other sentiments here, the Pershing would be very close in game terms to a Tiger, so it wouldn't add much to the variety of GVs available. 

It would be green.

 


wrongway

[Ack-Ack]

thats the super pershing, only 4 super pershings saw action during the Battle of the Rhine.


the pershings saw action very late in the war, but they did see action, and they were in squadron (armored group) strength

The regular M-26 Pershing saw action at the war's end in unit strength, however, at the time, only 2 Super Pershing prototypes were built and only one sent to the ETO.  When the Super Pershing was first introduced to the ETO, it was assigned to an unknown company within the 3rd AD, where it saw its first combat engagement when it destroyed either an unknown German type tank/assault gun from over 1,500 yards during fighting along the Weser River.  

This is from the book "Death Traps" by Belton Cooper (good book if your a US tank fan, though it is rather anti-Sherman) that describes the Super Pershing's first combat action.

"Some of the German units that had fallen back from the bridgehead set up a few isolated strong points along our route. One such position on a wooded hill ... opened fire as the column passed. The Super M26, in the forward part of the column, immediately swung its turret to the right and fired an armor-piercing shot toward an object on the forward slope of a wooded hill about fifteen hundred yards away [over three-quarters of a mile]. A blinding flash of sparks accompanied a tremendous explosion as debris shot fifty feet into the air ... The unknown object was a tank or self-propelled gun; had it been a half-track or other vehicle, the flash would not have been as large ... The rest of the column let go with a deluge of tank and automatic weapons fire, and the Germans soon broke off the action ... we didn't know what the Super M26 hit ... no one was anxious to go over and check it out."

Then for some reason, it was withdrawn from combat and then reassigned to the 33rd Regiment of the 3rd AD along with a new crew.  This was the tank crew that encountered the King Tiger in Dessau and destroyed it.

Because the prototype Super Pershing was assigned to passed around to different units within the 3rd AD, this has caused some confusion by making it seem there was more than one Super Pershing in the theater.

Just imagine if we had the Super Pershing in game, one hit kill on any tank at both long and close ranges.  Hell, even a standard Pershing could easily go head to head with a Tiger I with the very reasonable expectation of coming out on top.

ack-ack

[RTHolmes]

Its players like you who don't want any non-American stuff added until we have every last American unit added.  "Time for a new American tank" mere weeks after two were just added.  My ass.

[Wildcat1]

The regular M-26 Pershing saw action at the war's end in unit strength, however, at the time, only 2 Super Pershing prototypes were built and only one sent to the ETO.  When the Super Pershing was first introduced to the ETO, it was assigned to an unknown company within the 3rd AD, where it saw its first combat engagement when it destroyed either an unknown German type tank/assault gun from over 1,500 yards during fighting along the Weser River.  

This is from the book "Death Traps" by Belton Cooper (good book if your a US tank fan, though it is rather anti-Sherman) that describes the Super Pershing's first combat action.
Then for some reason, it was withdrawn from combat and then reassigned to the 33rd Regiment of the 3rd AD along with a new crew.  This was the tank crew that encountered the King Tiger in Dessau and destroyed it.

Because the prototype Super Pershing was assigned to passed around to different units within the 3rd AD, this has caused some confusion by making it seem there was more than one Super Pershing in the theater.

Just imagine if we had the Super Pershing in game, one hit kill on any tank at both long and close ranges.  Hell, even a standard Pershing could easily go head to head with a Tiger I with the very reasonable expectation of coming out on top.

ack-ack

my question is, why did America, as far as my knowledge, use shermans in Korea instead of Pershings?

[Ack-Ack]

Pershings saw action in Korea.

USMC M-26 Pershings




ack-ack

[AWwrgwy]

2nd pic is an M-46 Patton.

 


wrongway

[FiLtH]

2nd pic looks like a Pershing to me. The Patton had 3 of those upper bogies where the Pershing had 5.

[PropHawk]

Since the topic is tanks what about the WWI Mk.IV british tank? 6mm of armor all around and going at a wheezing gagging coughing 3mph. Two six pounders and four m.g.s is hard to beat for base blowing firepower. Ya know for 1916.

[AWwrgwy]

2nd pic looks like a Pershing to me. The Patton had 3 of those upper bogies where the Pershing had 5.

The only visual difference between an M-26 Pershing and an M-46 Patton, as near as I can tell, is the exhaust and the Bore evacuator, there in the picture behind the muzzle brake.

Otherwise the differences seem to be engine, transmission and a bunch of stuff you can't see.


wrongway