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Offline oakranger

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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2010, 11:55:00 AM »
Is having one more spit going to make any difference, we have seven versions already.  If we do end up getting it, some dweeb will cry for another type of spit to be brought on. 

NO on spit XII!
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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2010, 12:07:14 PM »
you could say the same for the P-47M which was added, or requests for the FG-1 and 1A or any other aircraft really.

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 15 different WWII spit variants which fulfill the criteria for inclusion in AH, and which are all noticeably different from each other. and that doesnt even include the XVI :D
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2010, 01:58:23 PM »
Just curious, how would a Spit VII stack up performance wise compared to the

1. Spit IX
2. Spit VIII
3. Spit XVI

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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2010, 02:02:13 PM »
Yes please.

There is always a need for more spitfires.

If we get it we should unperk the spit XIV too.
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2010, 02:30:54 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 09, 2010, 12:07:14 PM
you could say the same for the P-47M which was added, or requests for the FG-1 and 1A or any other aircraft really.

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 15 different WWII spit variants which fulfill the criteria for inclusion in AH, and which are all noticeably different from each other. and that doesnt even include the XVI :D

And there are over 150 variants of 190s,  we only have four.  Five if you want to add TH-152 as a 190. 
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2010, 02:55:24 PM »
Quote from: Boozeman on July 09, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Just curious, how would a Spit VII stack up performance wise compared to the

1. Spit IX
2. Spit VIII
3. Spit XVI

?

A Spitfire VII, really a high-alt pressurized Spitfire VIII would have handling qualities most similar to the VIII. Many Mk.VII's had long 40' wings and would roll far worse though. Some VII's had standard 36' 10" wings. Of course since its Merlin 70 is optimized for high-alt work, it would really only dominate those aircraft in high-alt combat from a speed standpoint.
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2010, 03:13:53 PM »
 I think the MkXII would make a great addition,if only to put a stop to all the perk the spiteen. :devil

 If the XII could be added like the 47M was I see no reason to not include it although I could name atleast a dozen planes we really need,I'm all for any new toys!

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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2010, 03:16:31 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 09, 2010, 02:30:54 PM
And there are over 150 variants of 190s,  we only have four.  Five if you want to add TH-152 as a 190. 

fine, start a topic requesting some of them. :)
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2010, 03:59:19 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 09, 2010, 03:16:31 PM
fine, start a topic requesting some of them. :)

NA, I don't want to.  Besides, there are Russian, IJ, Italian, and French AC that are need more than another spit. 
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2010, 04:18:01 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 09, 2010, 03:59:19 PM
NA, I don't want to.  Besides, there are Russian, IJ, Italian, and French AC that are need more than another spit. 

fine, start a topic requesting some of them. :)
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2010, 04:29:16 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 09, 2010, 02:30:54 PM
And there are over 150 variants of 190s,  we only have four.  Five if you want to add TH-152 as a 190. 

Well you can play that numbers game with Spits too as there were numerous variants of the Spit IX for example.  We only have one, and it's not the most numerous variant of the IX.  By the time you throw in different combos of engines, wingtips, armament, rudders, elevators etc it's a long list :)
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2010, 06:12:02 PM »
Spitfire list, we have the bolded models:

Spitfire Mk Ia (87 octane)
Spitfire Mk Ia (100 octane)
Spitfire Mk Ib
Spitfire Mk IIa
Spitfire Mk IIb
Spitfire Mk Va
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire Mk Vc (clipped)
Spitfire Mk VII
Spitfire Mk VII (extended tips)
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Spitfire F.Mk VIII
Spitfire HF.Mk VIII
Spitfire F.Mk IX (Merlin 61)
Spitfire F.Mk IX (Merlin 63)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (clipped, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (clipped, 150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (clipped, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (clipped, 150 octane)
Spitfire LF.MK IXe (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.MK IXe (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire HF.Mk IX
Spitfire HF.Mk IX
Spitfire HF.MK IX (extended tips)
Spitfire Mk XII
Spitfire F.Mk XIV (100 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIV (150 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIVe (100 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIVe (150 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (100 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (150 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (100 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVIIIe
Spitfire F.21


I know I left off many engine/fuel/wing/armament combinations.  I also didn't touch Seafires at all.
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2010, 11:16:34 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 09, 2010, 06:12:02 PM
Spitfire list, we have the bolded models:

Spitfire Mk Ia (87 octane)
Spitfire Mk Ia (100 octane)
Spitfire Mk Ib
Spitfire Mk IIa
Spitfire Mk IIb
Spitfire Mk Va
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire Mk Vc (clipped)
Spitfire Mk VII
Spitfire Mk VII (extended tips)
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
Spitfire F.Mk VIII
Spitfire HF.Mk VIII
Spitfire F.Mk IX (Merlin 61)
Spitfire F.Mk IX (Merlin 63)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (clipped, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IX (clipped, 150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (150 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (clipped, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.Mk IXe (clipped, 150 octane)
Spitfire LF.MK IXe (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire LF.MK IXe (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire HF.Mk IX
Spitfire HF.Mk IX
Spitfire HF.MK IX (extended tips)
Spitfire Mk XII
Spitfire F.Mk XIV (100 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIV (150 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIVe (100 octane)
Spitfire F.Mk XIVe (150 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (100 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (150 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire FR.Mk XIVe (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (100 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (bubble canopy, 100 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVI (bubble canopy, 150 octane)
Spitfire Mk XVIIIe
Spitfire F.21


I know I left off many engine/fuel/wing/armament combinations.  I also didn't touch Seafires at all.


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Offline oakranger

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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2010, 11:36:27 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 09, 2010, 04:18:01 PM
fine, start a topic requesting some of them. :)

Don't need to, i have others been doing already.

Karnak, looks interesting.  How many where produced and saw action? 
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Re: Time for the Spitfire Mk.XII.
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 12:45:44 AM »
Quote from: oakranger on July 09, 2010, 11:36:27 PM
Don't need to, i have others been doing already.

Karnak, looks interesting.  How many where produced and saw action? 

All of them.  The Spit XVIII didn't see it in WW2 but did after the war.  It was basically a strengthened XIV.  Kinda like the XVI to the IX
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