Please address the problem of CV hijacking

[waystin2]

I call out on the country channel that the CV had better start heading toward some action. If it does not I will start reporting it's position to the enemy every 5 minutes. Sometimes it works, other times I'll get one guy to tune me up and I guide him strait to it so he can sink it 

Ya it's a lame move, but thats the best way to fight a lamer isn't it? 

First Fugitive I agree with you on carriers should be used, but not in your solution.  Find a friendly that has the rank to take the CV, and have them move it for you.  Simple, no-lameness solution.

 

Way

[The Fugitive]

First Fugitive I agree with you on carriers should be used, but not in your solution.  Find a friendly that has the rank to take the CV, and have them move it for you.  Simple, no-lameness solution.

 

Way

Unfortunately those are the guys hiding it. I ALWAYS give them the chance to turn it back toward the action, but if they refuse, well lame is as lame does I guess.

[waystin2]

Unfortunately those are the guys hiding it. I ALWAYS give them the chance to turn it back toward the action, but if they refuse, well lame is as lame does I guess.

Well then...my apologies.  This can be frustrating as I really do not care to take the time to game my score for CV control.

[Traveler]

Perhaps the Con should be another fighting positon.  You man the Con. which gives you contol of the TG.  You leave the positon  you lose control of the TG.  The only way you can command the TG is form the Con.  If the Con is not manned .  then anyone can change the directon of the TG remotely as is down now.  But if someone wants to man the Con.  They have exclusive control.

[waystin2]

Perhaps the Con should be another fighting positon.  You man the Con. which gives you contol of the TG.  You leave the positon  you lose control of the TG.  The only way you can command the TG is form the Con.  If the Con is not manned .  then anyone can change the directon of the TG remotely as is down now.  But if someone wants to man the Con.  They have exclusive control.

I have always favored this approach.  I would say the only requirement is that you are located somewhere with in the task group (i.e. con, gun positions, etc.).

[SmokinLoon]

The thing about CV's are they are there to be used and abused, and not hid behind the curtains like a circus freak.

The easiest thing HTC could do is to add in some islands or other blockage to keep the CV's from skirting around the cape and off to freedom, and/or code the the edges of the maps so that CV's can only go so close.  That will limit just how far away the captured CV's can run/evade/hide.

On the note of having control of the CV and getting booted by a player of higher rank... yes, it is not cool to be removed from command.  It isnt fun, I've been on both ends of that ship.  The only time in which I take control of a CV from a lessor raned player is when they are trying to hide the CV, or otherwise are unfamiliar with how CV's work (trying to take them clear across the map instead of trying for a closer and more feasible target, etc).

Also, there are the bananas that think it is the DRIVER of that CV that got it sunk.  Last I knew, it was the enemy that dropped the ordnance on the CV, not the driver of the CV who dropped the ordnance on his CV.  The number of accusing PM's that come my way once a CV under my command is sunk is amusing.  I could have had that CV doing flips or even submerging like Davy Jone's Flying Dutchman, but the bomber is good enough to land the bombs regardless yet it is *my* fault.       

[Traveler]

I have always favored this approach.  I would say the only requirement is that you are located somewhere with in the task group (i.e. con, gun positions, etc.).

Have to disagree with your approach.  The problem being it gets back into the “who has control of the CV”    No, make a Con position.  If you want positive control of the CV you must man that position.  Anyone can man the Con.  No rank involved.  If you leave that position . anyone can take over control as long as they man the position.
 

Perhaps the Con should be another fighting positon.  You man the Con. which gives you contol of the TG.  You leave the positon  you lose control of the TG.  The only way you can command the TG is form the Con.  If the Con is not manned .  then anyone can change the directon of the TG remotely as is down now.  But if someone wants to man the Con.  They have exclusive control.

[ImADot]

So, as long as someone is manning the con, as is with the SB or man-gun, nobody can kick them out and take control?  How is that better than what we have now?  I can see shades manning the con and never leaving, while they play on their other account.

[Traveler]

So, as long as someone is manning the con, as is with the SB or man-gun, nobody can kick them out and take control?  How is that better than what we have now?  I can see shades manning the con and never leaving, while they play on their other account.

What we have now is someone taking command of a TG and then flying in a mission on the other side of the map or just directing the CV out of the fight to no man's land.  Because of their rank noone can regain cotrol and they tie up the CV for hours.  With my suggestion the Con is a manned position and the player has to stay in that positon to have contol.  Could a shade account take control.  As long as they are paying their 14.95 a month, yes.  But isn't shade accounts a different porblem than a non attentive player taking and holding control of a CV.

[waystin2]

So, as long as someone is manning the con, as is with the SB or man-gun, nobody can kick them out and take control?  How is that better than what we have now?  I can see shades manning the con and never leaving, while they play on their other account.

There is no way to stop this, and I do not think HTC would change anything in relation to this particular wrinkle.

[ImADot]

Yep, my point exactly.  It is what it is and we just deal with it best we can.

[Traveler]

Yep, my point exactly.  It is what it is and we just deal with it best we can.

My mistake, I thought your point was:

So, as long as someone is manning the con, as is with the SB or man-gun, nobody can kick them out and take control?  How is that better than what we have now?  I can see shades manning the con and never leaving, while they play on their other account.

[ImADot]

I was just trying to say that by having the con as a manable position, like a field gun, you're even more stuck than now.  You can't kick someone out of the shore battery if they're sitting there doing nothing while their buddy brings the enemy CV up to the town.  At least now someone with a higher rank can kick someone out of control of a CV.  It's still not perfect, but I don't think there's any way to make it so someone can't game the game to do dweeby things with the CV.

[milesobrian]

just find out who is doing it and ban them from using the CV from then on.... and if that isnt deterrent enough and they choose to still do this crap, they will never be able to control a cv again... 

Though i doubt this would ever be implemented, its the same thing we do to people who abuse the chat feature so why not do the same for people who abuse the cv.  I mean the people chatting can simply be tuned out, and really dont impact the game that much, while the cv hiders impact the game on a much higher level, than people who choose to mouth off, or troll, since their is an easy solution to that, and it hardly effects game play.

[Masherbrum]

just find out who is doing it and ban them from using the CV from then on.... and if that isnt deterrent enough and they choose to still do this crap, they will never be able to control a cv again...  

Though i doubt this would ever be implemented, its the same thing we do to people who abuse the chat feature so why not do the same for people who abuse the cv.  I mean the people chatting can simply be tuned out, and really dont impact the game that much, while the cv hiders impact the game on a much higher level, than people who choose to mouth off, or troll, since their is an easy solution to that, and it hardly effects game play.

Honestly, they are one and the same.   Your "mouths" (Desktop Generals) are the one's with "the Master (Bucket full of holes) Planners" and are the ones putting down the Chesspiece they're on.   Most of these geniuses have managed to piss off all 3 and are 99% squelched.   You always have the gullible who cling to them though.