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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #45 on: July 30, 2010, 09:13:43 PM »
Actually I never squelch people I find most of their trolling attempts to be quite funny, and the reactions they get from many people is even better.

I like it, it adds some spice to the game, watching their banter makes flying to where the action is at bearable.   But when all the CV are all directed far away from any where its a pain because if you want to use one of those CVs or at least put them in range so if they needed to be used they could be, without having to wait an hour for transit, is just annoying, foolish and harmful for the team.

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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2010, 03:43:58 PM »
I was just trying to say that by having the con as a manable position, like a field gun, you're even more stuck than now.  You can't kick someone out of the shore battery if they're sitting there doing nothing while their buddy brings the enemy CV up to the town.  At least now someone with a higher rank can kick someone out of control of a CV.  It's still not perfect, but I don't think there's any way to make it so someone can't game the game to do dweeby things with the CV.

I think the manable position is better then what now exists for the reasons I"ve stated in the earlier posts.  I really don't see anyone now doing the things you discribe, I do see people with the rank grabbing control and sending it to never never land and they can retain control and do anything else that they feel like doing. Drive tanks, fly planes, man field guns and they lose track of the CV and end up getting it sunk.  I just think it should be like any other position in the game.  They get total control as long as they are in the position. I'm not worried about spys or shades or any of the other crap
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Re: Hiding Carriers
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2010, 04:11:53 PM »
Just a little, historical note,  Invasion of Guadalcanal:

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...Leaving the invasion transports unprotected.  After the Battle of Savo Island the following night, the transports followed leaving the Marines ashore to their own devices.   :salute


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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2010, 06:42:37 PM »
In order for you to get and keep command of the CV you must first quit your job so you'll be able to play 18 hours a day to get your rank as low as the other rankmeisters. :old:
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2010, 05:39:17 PM »
The last few nights online I've noticed our Rook CVs keep getting tasked to areas behind our "continent", where they are fairly useless.

I hope there more and better ideas to address the issue of CV hijacking, but for the moment, can we at least have a log of who, when, and to where CVs are tasked?


I've been noticing this as well. And when you try change it, it always reverts back when you aren't looking. I have my suspicions as to who the 2 or 3 people doing it are. Just look for the ones that are saying 'hey, C## is getting hit, someone move it' when they are neither up from the CV or in the tower.

And a log wouldn't help, they are convinced they are doing their patriotic duty to keep us to the strait and narrow by keeping us from 'wasting our time with the CV attacks' dispite the fact that they get yelled at when they get caught.
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2010, 07:14:40 PM »
Yeah... CV hiding... I remember flying 2 hours in a bomber to kill a CV because the rooks wouldnt give up control of it (after hiding it) and one Rook came over to my team, posted the mish, we went and bombed it.... Good fun- I mean, why not? He wouldnt let his own team use it, just kept it hidden........ but the problem is-

CV hiding will spawn negative actions/reactions among the community.

I think best scenario is man a gun, or the con, and you command....
Fly a plane, enter a GV, or a field gun on a land base- lose control....
no keyboard/joystick inputs in 10/15 minutes, lose control....

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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2010, 08:34:38 AM »

I think best scenario is man a gun, or the con, and you command....
Fly a plane, enter a GV, or a field gun on a land base- lose control....
no keyboard/joystick inputs in 10/15 minutes, lose control....

The only problem being, who of the manable gun positions has command?  Is that based on rank?   Better if there is just a Con Positon , whoever is in that position has command.  If that position is empty.  Let anyone be able to alter the course of the CV as is now done, unless the Con Position is manned.
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2010, 03:08:48 PM »
The only problem being, who of the manable gun positions has command?  Is that based on rank?   Better if there is just a Con Positon , whoever is in that position has command.  If that position is empty.  Let anyone be able to alter the course of the CV as is now done, unless the Con Position is manned.

No, I know, I don't think I was clear to what I meant... I think if you man the con, you should also be able to man the AA guns for defense of the ships too.... I mean, since you should be stuck to the ships, might as well be able to defend it as well... I just dont think you should be able to fly/gv, etc... 

Case in point, earlier today there were like, 120 people in the arena, all fights were over land, so while I took a long long route around my target in bombers, I took control of a TG (noone was using them), and fooled around with it- but that means either I'm not paying attention to my a/c or the TG- one or the other.

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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2010, 07:23:57 PM »
The problem with having a 'con' possition is that once someone mans it, like a spy or shade account (there are some) or just some idiot, there is no way to get him out of there.
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2010, 10:20:45 PM »
The problem with having a 'con' possition is that once someone mans it, like a spy or shade account (there are some) or just some idiot, there is no way to get him out of there.

That's true, but that's all they can do.   They can't fly or GV.   How long would you sit there?

And everyone would learn who the ID was.  As it is now.  Someone can grab control and you have the same thing.  but now they are free to do other things besides tie up the CV.
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2010, 08:52:24 PM »
Well, if it is a shade account, its sole reason for existience is to act as a target for its creator so he can score and perk pad, or to sit in CV guns, SB's, or 17lbers and tie them up. The only other reason one would have a shade account is for spying; you can find CV locations, find who is active at what field, when the next attack is coming, and be directed to defensless C-47's.
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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2010, 09:03:29 PM »
Well, if it is a shade account, its sole reason for existience is to act as a target for its creator so he can score and perk pad, or to sit in CV guns, SB's, or 17lbers and tie them up. The only other reason one would have a shade account is for spying; you can find CV locations, find who is active at what field, when the next attack is coming, and be directed to defensless C-47's.

Some people have shade accounts to:
1. Fly unmolested without having ankle humping squeakers nag them
2. To allow friends or family to play as well
3. Some dual box and crew their own bombers (was a well known player that did this)
4. For many other reasons not listed above that have nothing to do with cheating or spying

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Re: Please address the problem of CV hijacking
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2010, 09:14:33 PM »
1. Fly unmolested without having ankle humping squeakers nag them
2. To allow friends or family to play as well
3. Some dual box and crew their own bombers (was a well known player that did this)

2 I wouldn't really call 'shade' accounts. I will admit I had overlooked the others, but i will argue the "for many other reasons not listed above that have nothing to do with cheating or spying".

If there are more than 5, I will give you the point, but I wouldn't even begin to call 2 or 3 "many".

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