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Offline guncrasher

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2010, 02:56:29 PM »
a26 1/4 to 1/2 against a fully loaded fighter.  we'll see how it goes.

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2010, 04:27:07 PM »
18 M2s.... sounds like an airborne calliope.  I am down. 

Wing loading is a aspect of maneuver potential.  Aerodynamic cleverness on the part of the designer is another.  A Pilatus Porter could probably turn inside of a Cessna 152 (ack-ack don't as me for a citation dammit...lol this is an illustration) just as a decent HOG pilot can get inside of some 109s.

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2010, 04:35:11 PM »
Quote from: DEECONX on July 15, 2010, 02:56:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVQuH6L2IOI&feature=related  

This video gives mention to the A-26's maneaverability. But, as Ack-Ack has given examples of TV shows being wrong, take this as you will.

There is no question about the A-26's maneuverability, from all reports from the squadrons that flew them in the ETO, it was a pilot's plane with very response controls and maneuverable for an attack plane.  Its main tactic when encountering enemy fighters was to get away, not try and dogfight.

It's a good attack plane, probably the best that saw service during the war but able to maneuver with and out turn a Bf 109?  Don't think so.

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2010, 04:40:56 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on July 14, 2010, 10:45:08 PM
Unlike the accurately modeled 110 in ah which was not allowed to go to England towards the end of the war due to the easiness at which the spitfires and hurricanes would bring it down.

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2010, 04:49:34 PM »
Quote from: guncrasher on July 14, 2010, 10:45:08 PM
Unlike the accurately modeled 110 in ah which was not allowed to go to England towards the end of the war due to the easiness at which the spitfires and hurricanes would bring it down.


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You mean the 110 that primarily used the HO as an offensive tactic in WW2, just like in AH2?

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2010, 04:52:09 PM »
Heya Ack Ack,

Yesterday on the military channel they were showing the A-26 on "Greatest Planes" show

the Narrator and I guess an A-26 pilot back in Korea/Vietnam era both said on the show that the A-26 after she had dropped her load, could turn inside/turn with... the 109E4, 109F4 and 109G2  

no footage was shown, no comparisons of the A-26 verses the 109's were shown... it was just all word of mouth stuff.....

for what it's worth.....  

I figured that is what sparked this thread , since the A-26 episode "aired" yesterday .......
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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2010, 05:01:19 PM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on July 15, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
Heya Ack Ack,

Yesterday on the military channel they were showing the A-26 on "Greatest Planes" show

the Narrator and I guess an A-26 pilot back in Korea/Vietnam era both said on the show that the A-26 after she had dropped her load, could turn inside/turn with... the 109E4, 109F4 and 109G2  

no footage was shown, no comparisons of the A-26 verses the 109's were shown... it was just all word of mouth stuff.....

for what it's worth.....  

I figured that is what sparked this thread , since the A-26 episode "aired" yesterday .......

I vaguely recall seeing that one, long ago, and, IIRC, more than one thing they anecdotaly related seemed pretty hinkey to me.  Of course, I can't remember what they were and I don't get a chance to watch t.v. very often.  It jsut struck me as a "really?" moment.

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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2010, 05:07:19 PM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on July 15, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
Heya Ack Ack,

Yesterday on the military channel they were showing the A-26 on "Greatest Planes" show

the Narrator and I guess an A-26 pilot back in Korea/Vietnam era both said on the show that the A-26 after she had dropped her load, could turn inside/turn with... the 109E4, 109F4 and 109G2  

no footage was shown, no comparisons of the A-26 verses the 109's were shown... it was just all word of mouth stuff.....

for what it's worth.....  

I figured that is what sparked this thread , since the A-26 episode "aired" yesterday .......

Yeah, I've seen that episode a few times and it's probably where the myth that it could out turn a Bf109 came from.  I'm sure it was probably meant to over exaggerate its maneuverability and after being repeated many times it eventually worked its way into "fact".

The Invader is credited with 6 air to air kills and one probable but if I recall correctly, the lion's share of the air to air kills came from night interdiction missions that the Invader sometimes flew.  There is currently a restored A-26, Lady Luck (A-26B-20-DL, 41-39230) where you can still see the repair patches on the tail from a night interdiction when it tangled with a Luftwaffe night fighter.  There is supposedly an Invader that was credited with the probable kill on a ME 262 that is supposedly caught either taking off or about to land.


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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »
6 A2A kills in almost 40yrs service? ...
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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2010, 05:13:56 PM »
I know.... 6 kills is very low. I personally have killed 109K4s, P-51Ds at least a couple dozen each in AWIII.   :neener:
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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2010, 05:15:04 PM »
wonder how many the A20 got overall. does ok in AH ;)
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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2010, 05:16:55 PM »
Holmes the only thing missing now is a Lusche chart....
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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2010, 05:22:55 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on July 15, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
6 A2A kills in almost 40yrs service? ...

6 confirmed air to air with one probable during its WW2 service in the ETO.


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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2010, 05:51:38 PM »
How many kills has the us navy has had since Vietnam?  A26 was not used as a fighter really and in the attack it was mostly hit and run.  Think of it as u guys that fly to run err not die :)


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Re: How about the A26?
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2010, 06:59:01 PM »
Quote from: TequilaChaser on July 15, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
Heya Ack Ack,

Yesterday on the military channel they were showing the A-26 on "Greatest Planes" show

the Narrator and I guess an A-26 pilot back in Korea/Vietnam era both said on the show that the A-26 after she had dropped her load, could turn inside/turn with... the 109E4, 109F4 and 109G2  

no footage was shown, no comparisons of the A-26 verses the 109's were shown... it was just all word of mouth stuff.....

for what it's worth.....  

I figured that is what sparked this thread , since the A-26 episode "aired" yesterday .......
That what my link was of...
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