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Offline DEECONX

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NO KILLSHOOTER!
« on: July 16, 2010, 11:34:38 PM »
What purpose does Killshooter serve? For example, today my friend lost a 262 because a friendly dove in front of him while he was lighting up a enemy plane. This resulted in the my friend getting hit by his own 30mm. Why? What purpose does this have in game? Why should my friend loose his 262 when friendlies dive in front of his guns? I am not asking for Killshooter to be turned off, I am asking for it to be removed completely. As in, if someone shoots at friendlies NOTHING happens. AT ALL.


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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 11:42:38 PM »
SA

Puts a little more difficulty in hoarding and have 10 cons on 1 plane, etc. We've all kill-shot ourselves before when someone does that, and yes it's frustrating but the pros far outweigh the cons IMO.
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 11:46:10 PM »
That will never happen again.
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 11:51:52 PM »


Right now I want to hear five words from you ;)
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 11:58:46 PM »
Generally a killshot happens when two or more aircraft are shooting at the same target, i.e. the target is outnumbered.  Killshooter allows for the outnumbered target to benefit from the outnumbering opponents' overzealousness at getting the kill before their comrades.

If there was no killshooter, the idiot in the back spraying away would hit his teammates in front and kill them, thereby evening the odds a bit for the target in question.  But no killshooter also leads to the certainty of intentional griefing, so this is not really a desireable situation in the game.

No consequence for landing hits on a teammate (op's suggestion) means the target remains outnumbered despite the idiot in back spraying.  There is absolutely no disincentive for all 8 cons behind him from unloading all their weaponry hoping theirs is the magic bb that will find the noggin.  This then means the target is well and truly boofed.

Or, we have the elegant solution of the current killshooter.  Idiot in back sprays, hits the teammate in front . . . and the idiot evaporates, leaving our target in a slightly better state than he was in before because now only 7 cons are chasing him instead of 8.  This is the most "fair" result to target while not allowing idiot to intentionally grief his teammates.

The sad result is that occasionally it isn't your own idiocy that gets you killed, but rather poor SA or plain dumb luck.  But that is a minor annoyance given the greater goals.
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2010, 12:17:03 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

Someone dove in front of his 262??

Really?


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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2010, 12:25:25 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

Someone dove in front of his 262??

Really?


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Offline Dichotomy

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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2010, 12:38:25 AM »
Generally a killshot happens when two or more aircraft are shooting at the same target, i.e. the target is outnumbered.  Killshooter allows for the outnumbered target to benefit from the outnumbering opponents' overzealousness at getting the kill before their comrades.

If there was no killshooter, the idiot in the back spraying away would hit his teammates in front and kill them, thereby evening the odds a bit for the target in question.  But no killshooter also leads to the certainty of intentional griefing, so this is not really a desireable situation in the game.

No consequence for landing hits on a teammate (op's suggestion) means the target remains outnumbered despite the idiot in back spraying.  There is absolutely no disincentive for all 8 cons behind him from unloading all their weaponry hoping theirs is the magic bb that will find the noggin.  This then means the target is well and truly boofed.

Or, we have the elegant solution of the current killshooter.  Idiot in back sprays, hits the teammate in front . . . and the idiot evaporates, leaving our target in a slightly better state than he was in before because now only 7 cons are chasing him instead of 8.  This is the most "fair" result to target while not allowing idiot to intentionally grief his teammates.

The sad result is that occasionally it isn't your own idiocy that gets you killed, but rather poor SA or plain dumb luck.  But that is a minor annoyance given the greater goals.

I'm not a big believer in harsh but this made me snicker a bit.  Especially since I've been the 'id10t' once or twice. 
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 12:43:18 AM »
What purpose does Killshooter serve?

The prevention of total anarchy in the main arena.
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 01:30:39 AM »
It adds a touch of realism while preventing greifing. I'm pretty sure during the war, bullets hurt friendly planes (realism 101). But then you have the problem of the internet bully.. you know, the pockmark-faced idiot who hasn't seen the light of day in 2 years, orders food in because he can't get out of the house and gets joy out of others misery online because he is totally inadequate in his/her own real life, so deep down they want to kick the bucket, yet are too afraid, so they find ways of bothering others to make themselves feel superior. Yeah, them kind of people.  :rofl

So instead of bullets hurting the other guy, they found a compromise; make the bullets hurt... yourself! which is why, while not perfect, AH has one of the most stable communities that I've seen in terms of the fewest idiots successfully screwing with other people for pure, personal amusement.  :aok
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2010, 01:43:12 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

Someone dove in front of his 262??

Really?


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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2010, 03:08:30 AM »
Wait, wait, wait.

Someone dove in front of his 262??

Really?


wrongway

 :rofl

Must have been an Me 163
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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2010, 07:34:30 AM »
ROFLMAO

That the best ya got?

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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2010, 11:36:49 AM »
Do you have a picture?  I have a big "owned" sign for the 262.


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Re: NO KILLSHOOTER!
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2010, 11:58:44 AM »
I'm betting the plane that swarmed in front was a Jug, those things go considerably fast while in a dive, and can easily dive onto a 262.
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