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Offline Dawger

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Dive Brake Sound file?
« on: July 26, 2010, 04:09:59 PM »
Can we get one?

Please.

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 11:04:01 PM »
Can we get one?

Please.

I look at the light on the dash, but +1.  Why not?


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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 12:10:11 AM »
As long as it sounds like the rear flap on your long johns whipping around in a high wind...sure.  :lol
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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 03:36:36 AM »
Which plane has a dive brake that you want to hear?  :huh
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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 04:35:27 AM »
Which plane has a dive brake that you want to hear?  :huh

p-38,p-47,sbd,stuka, etc

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 06:28:48 AM »
D3a1!

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 09:11:11 AM »
Can we get one?

Please.

I assume you mean when it deploys and stows?

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 09:22:04 AM »
Yes sir, exactly that.

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2010, 10:22:56 AM »
I assume you mean when it deploys and stows?

HiTech

Yes, deploy and stow but depending on the particular design there will be aerodynamic rumble associated with a deployed dive brake or dive recovery flap.

The design of the P-38 dive recovery flap would create an aerodynamic rumble when deployed. Any panel extended at high speed on the surface of the airfoil creates a disturbance that is mainly felt but also heard.

Something similar to the stall buffett although not quite as dramatic would be a close approximation.

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2010, 10:26:45 AM »
As an aside, in most airplanes I've flown you really can't hear the flaps mechanism. You hear and feel the aerodynamic effects of deployment much more than the mechanical system.

Gear machinery is usually heard in the cockpit but that is mainly because the crew is sitting on top of the nose gear mechanism or between the mains in a taildragger.

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2010, 11:19:10 AM »
p-38,p-47,sbd,stuka, etc

be more specific.  P-47D-40 has it the rest of the 47s does not.
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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2010, 11:21:45 AM »
Speaking of the dive brakes for the Stuka, what about the dive alarms. I hear them once my bombs are released but stukas were known to have them anytime they reach a certain speed in a dive, not just upon bomb release. :salute

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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2010, 11:28:22 AM »
Oh and please a bomb door sound to go with this!!
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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2010, 12:27:13 PM »
p-38,p-47,sbd,stuka, etc

P-38 doesn't have dive brakes...


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Re: Dive Brake Sound file?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2010, 01:45:15 PM »
P-38 doesn't have dive brakes...


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But the P-38 dive recovery flap is actuated by the dive brake key assignment in Aces High so the confusion is completely understandable.

And the design of the real thing is identical to control surfaces that are today referred to as speed brakes, spoilers or dive brakes. The aircraft I currently fly has 8 panels that look just like a P-38 dive flap with the exception they are on the upper surface of the wing and their primary function is to kill lift, hence they are called "spoilers". We use them as dive brakes but they aren't called dive brakes.

The speed brake (or dive brake if you like) on the F4 Phantom is remarkably similar to the P-38 "dive recovery flap".

So calling the P-38 "dive recovery flap" a speed or dive brake is not all that unreasonable. It was designed to assist in recovery from exceeding critical mach but it functions as a speed brake as well and I would imagine it was used regularly as a speed brake by P-38 pilots.