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Offline bloom25

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« on: January 04, 2001, 01:55:00 AM »
The computer that I use on the weekends is an old slow Celeron 366.  The other day I changed out the ram for PC 100 ram and updated the bios.

This makes it possible to use a PIII up to 600 Mhz, but it has to be the older Katami version.  (This was the slot 1 version with 512kb of off-die cache ram.)  Unfortunately these processors are no longer made, and no one in my local area has one.

If anybody here has a PIII 500 to 600 in the older 512kb cache style that they are interested in getting rid of, let me know.  My e-mail address is bloom@engr.orst.edu.  I'd be willing to pay $75 for it.



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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2001, 03:46:00 AM »
Bloom...check out www.pricewatch.com.   They've got several sources for PIII500s & 600s of the slot 1 512k variety, but they are a bit pricey.


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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2001, 04:10:00 AM »
I ahve both an Athlon 800 and a P3 800 and the athlon is much better than the p3 for games and graphical stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2001, 08:54:00 AM »
Bloom I just upgraded to a celeron 366@550 from a celery 266@448

Its easily clockable, and you can extend its worth to you, while waiting for cpu's to come down in price  

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »
Ohh btw Bloom u can use a slocket in your slot one enabling you to use any p3.. or new celeron within board and BIOS limits.

what mobo?

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2001, 02:06:00 PM »
I just upgraded my Intel MB slot 1 PII 400 to a PIII 600 three weeks ago.  I used pricewatch and found one for $150.  I think they are cheaper now.

It was an OEM version though, and did not come with a heat sink.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2001, 02:28:00 PM »
Hey Bloom!   I have a Slut 1 P3 450 512k...im in Eugene too  

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2001, 10:40:00 PM »
Wow, I have lots to type. *Cracks knuckles POP*  

I actually used those slockets before to take my original computer from a PII 266 to a Celeron 466.  That isn't really an option in this case for several reasons.  (Too many to get into.)

I've seen those Pricewatch ads, but I think I can probably find a PIII 500 - 600 used for much cheaper.

As for the AMD vs PIII issue, no doubt the Athlons are faster.  In fact my main computer system is a Tbird 700@900.  This computer is just a system I use during holidays and weekends.  (I'm a Electrical Engineering senior in college, so I have to come home on the weekends etc.)  The reason I want to speed this one up is compared to my Athlon system ... well there is no comparision. (85 fps on a 17" monitor vs 25 fps on a 15".)  Seriously, this thing is slower than a Ford Fiesta towing a semi.  

Unfortunately it's not easy to overclock this system.  It's built on a SE440BX-2 board (the original one).  Since the board is made by Intel, overclocking is not easily possible.  (SoftFSB would probably work, but I'm not going to risk screwing this computer up or making it unstable.)  Since this board is the original Seattle board the best processor I can use is a PIII 600 Katami.

Mars, that wouldn't be much of an improvement over the 366 Celeron I've got, but I might go ahead and do it anyway.  I couldn't pay $75 for a 450, but I'd give you $50 for it.  (Do you still have the fan and heatsink on it/for it?)  I work at Norvac on Saturdays.  If you want to sell it, just bring it by.  (I'll send you an e-mail.)



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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2001, 11:01:00 PM »
Like I said, I have 2 systesm exactly the same, both 800mhz, one P3 one Athlon.  The athlon benchmarks about 5 percent higher than the p3.  
BUT THE MAIN THING IS. that for the price of say a 1ghz p3 you could buy a 1.1ghz Athlon which would be faster, thats what REALLY matters, performance per dollar.

Processor for processor, a p3 MIGHT beat an athlon,
BUT dollar for dollar a p3 cannot touch an athlon.
So basically you can buy a p3 900 that is faster than a athlon 900 but you could also buy an athlon 1ghz for the same price (or less) than you paid for the p3 900, and therfore you pay the same amount for a faster chip.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2001, 11:38:00 PM »
Hehe Wobble, I think you misunderstood my post.  The Athlon will beat the PIII by 36% in FPU benchmarks at the same clockspeed on average.  Integer performance is about the same.  On the whole the Athlon Thunderbird generally performs some 10 - 20% percent better in CPUMark scores at the same clock speed.  Athlons are a better deal and better performer than the P3 or the Celeron.

(Actually the Tbird performs pretty well vs even the P4 ... and the P4 costs a fortune compared to even the fastest 1.2GHz Tbird.)

This isn't my personal system that I'm upgrading.  It's just one I use on the weekends that I built two years ago.  (My primary system is an Athlon.   )



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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
Just as a note... AH is very FPU intensive.  It follow then that a game like AH would play more to the strengths of the Athlon.

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2001, 01:21:00 PM »
sorry bloom, I had my special-ed reading glasses on.