This is gonna be big...

[popeye]

From the SimHQ review of new features:

"The first is a combination of the addition of new, powerful, late-war aircraft and the ability to fly them based on a career points tracking system, where pilots build up their points and prestige by scoring kills.  Because of concerns that only allowing the best pilots to fly the best planes would throw the gameplay balance of the entire arena off, HiTech is planning on a system that punishes your career badly if you are shot down while flying the late-model aircraft."

Will be very interesting to see how this is implemented.  Could be a good alternative to an RPS, but could also create a Runstang mentality for late war planes.  I suspect it will be the subject for some (cough) discussion.  

popeye

[Ripsnort]

Good time to introduce the I-16, bet one could rack some points up with 1 or 2 kills on an unsuspecting late war plane!  

[Pongo]

Ill wait till I hear it from the horses mouth but sounds bad to me...
What do they mean by "career"
Watch people vulch their buddies.
But...
Ill try anything once....

[Dead Man Flying]

<sigh>

[Greg 'wmutt' Cook]

I don't like it.  It seems to punish the guy's who just do this for fun.  And makes the game a bit more arcade-like.  People gripe about a 'Quake"-like atmosphere already, wait untill score really means something in terms of gameplay.  But I guess I'll just wait and see.  This is still the best game in town  

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332nd Flying Mongrels

[snafu]

Oh please say it ain't so  

I've just started enjoying AH more since I stopped worrying about the scores, now I might have a career to worry about.   .

My $30 is as good as the next persons and I would object strongly to being told "No you can't fly that one yet co's you ain't good enough". (I know this is not exactly what is being suggested here but sounds like the next logical step)

It would just mean the best would get better. Make more sense to make it harder for the Aces to give the rest of us a chance. (Me in B26, Hitech in Sopwith Camel sounds about right   ).

Seriously. Leave this one alone (Please)

TTFN
snafu

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[popeye]

Might be a bit early for teeth gnashing.  

popeye

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by popeye:
Might be a bit early for teeth gnashing.    

popeye

Sorry, but I absolutely do NOT see how a system like this will do anything but encourage super-conservative flying.  That is, attacking only with numbers, alt, or both.  Even when such flying yields bonuses such as better aircraft, the penalty for dying in these aircraft encourages an even GREATER level of conservative flying.  This in and of itself tends to defeat the purpose of having such planes in the first place.  What's the point of experimenting with their capabilities if doing so means losing them?

Here's to hoping HTC proves me wrong.

-- Todd/DMF

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[humble]

I've always been confused about this "career" stuff. I realize we all fly for our enjoyment...and AH has done a superb job of providing options for all. You can fly a historic plane based on your nationality/preferances and succeed...la-5 and 205 both are worthy opponents and the finnish G-2 can hold it's own as well. You can T&B in the spit5 or fly G-10/190 B&Z...Any system that forces a player to balance his enjoyment vs a predefined formula for "success" will impact his enjoyment of the game...hope we're careful here.

[funked]

Sounds fun.  I'm all for experimentation.  If it really sucks, I'm sure we will let HTC know.  But let's try it first.  

[NineZ]

Hmmm, if this goes into effect I might be limited to being a goon jockey! hehee.

But all kidding aside, maybe the career concept would make the future historical arena kinda interesting.  

I guess its a little premature to really make any intelligent comments on it right now.

JagdNine

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[Karnak]

If I read it right, it says that you have to have a good/great record in order to fly the late war stuff.  But don't you dare lose the late war stuff.  Because it'll knock you down so  far that have to fight your way back up the rankings with early war stuff before you can fly late war stuff again.

Needless to say, I could be wrong.  Wait...I said it.  Doh!!!  

Sisu

[Westy]

 Can you imagine the venomous, whiney, bombastic posts from (whomever. fill in the handle) who after working his fingers to the bone to gain access to, say, an F8F, suddenly finds one night he dies horribly in a HO to a newby in a Spit V at 1200 ????

"a system that punishes your career badly if you are shot down while flying the late-model aircraft."

 I smell  ________  aneurisms !    

    -Westy

[Gunthr]

That can't be right. What about bombers? What about squads providing escorts on a mission? Don't tell me that members of a squad with fewer "career points" or whatever will not be able to join in on the mission because they don't have enough points to fly the assigned aircraft? Naaaa. Something got lost in the sauce here.... I hope.

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[ra]

I'm not sure how to read this.  Sentence #1 makes it sound like you have to rack up points to fly the Uber stuff.  Sentence #2 makes it sound like you can fly all the Uber stuff you want, but you'll be busted to sargeant if you get kilt in one.  So only scorepotatos are effected.  Personally, I would prefer #1, but I ain't no scorepotato so I could live with #2 as a buck private forever.

ra