This is gonna be big...

[ra]

JENG:  Please don't open that can of worms until we have collected enough worms  

Hool:  I think only the very Uber-est of the Uber planes will have to be earned.  Uber-uber  planes should be available in other non-scoring arenas if newbies really want to give em a try.  When they're done they can go back to their Spifires.  


ra

[Toad]

This is definitely in the "be careful what you ask for...you may get it" category.

We all want this game to grow, right? Lots of players, HTC successful, more and better stuff?

If you're the new greenhorn guy, what's this system going to do to you for the free two week period?

Will you sign up if all you got to fly were the "dogs"?

There's a ways to go before this debuts. I'm interested in trying it and in seeing how it will be implemented. It could cut both ways, however.

Just a thought.

[This message has been edited by Toad (edited 05-17-2000).]

[HaHa]

For you "quakers" that thinks this is a bad idea.. go fly offline then. There is no reason why we can't have more in-depth gameplay - with a reason to get experience and hence do well. It's a lot closer to the real wwII experience and as other "experience" based games have shown.. a heck of a lot of fun  

[bloom25]

Perhaps we could be given points every week.  We can then add to them by capturing a field, shooting down a plane (as per above), landing your plane after a kill, etc.  Then we could use those points to "buy" sorties in the special planes.  If you land them, you don't lose those points.  If you ditch, you lose 1/2 the points.  Bail = 3/4.  Die = all points you spent to fly the plane are lost.

Whatever you do, you can't punish people who don't have time to fly as much as others, or completely prevent newbies from flying the special stuff.  AH wouldn't last too long if you did that.  IMO the best method is to give everyone enough points to allow them to be able to fly the better planes.  If they are sucessful, they can earn the right to continue to fly them.

I'm sure there is some way to do this...



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[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by HaHa:
For you "quakers" that thinks this is a bad idea.. go fly offline then. There is no reason why we can't have more in-depth gameplay - with a reason to get experience and hence do well. It's a lot closer to the real wwII experience and as other "experience" based games have shown.. a heck of a lot of fun  

So if, in WW2, you managed to shoot down really good German planes in less-capable Allied planes, you were rewarded with a few flights in a P-80?

Until, of course, you were shot down in one, after which you were demoted back to your previous ride.  That's realistic.  

It's an interesting rewards system, but let's not confuse it or the flying styles it promotes with realism.

-- Todd/DMF

[Citabria]

said in the article the current planes are the ones that are not limited AT ALL!  

only the Ta152, Spit XIV, Me262,F4u4,La7,B-29,Tempest, Ki84,Me163,P-47N,yak3,Arado Ar234,C54(able to drop 50troops!!!!) would be the onese that must be earned.

frankly I see it as the best method for controlling the amount of these planes seen in AH, it should have different amounts of dificulty to obtain each aircraft for sure.

man a b29 and c54 would rock   and they are definitely planes that should be earned not handed out at certain time intervals.

[Sorrow[S=A]]

Why on EARTH would the La-7 or Yak-3 be limited?
Thats just insane, those planes are hardly "uber". Or at least no more than your standard G-10 or P51d they were contemporaries of.

[Sundog]

They should make the Me-163 the first Uber plane. Would clear any rather large egos on landing rather quickly if they didn't land it just right,

...jostle...jostle..bump...::::KABOOOOOMMMM!!!::::

Back to non-uber planes...hehe

 



[This message has been edited by Sundog (edited 05-17-2000).]

[HaHa]

 

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:
So if, in WW2, you managed to shoot down really good German planes in less-capable Allied planes, you were rewarded with a few flights in a P-80?

Until, of course, you were shot down in one, after which you were demoted back to your previous ride.  That's realistic.    

It's an interesting rewards system, but let's not confuse it or the flying styles it promotes with realism.

-- Todd/DMF

No actually.. in real life you were dead which was punishment enough. IF you lived and you seemed to continously destroy the best planes you would definitely be demoted.

[Yeager]

Well folks,  Just reading this thread popped a vein in my brain  

Go for it!

Yeager

[Nash]

"4. Base the points on kills of lesser flown v more flown planes." -Hitech

"This I like. It still favors those who fly conservatively regardless of the plane they fly, but it encourages them to do so in less popular planes. That alone could be an equalizer." -DMF

Lol DMF.. that *would* be the one option you favour  

Btw, ra, Nashwan and I are two different people.

Wtf though... I'm all for giving this uber plane system a whirl. Might be cool. If it's as bad as some of you suspect, I'm sure it'll get the axe. 'Till we know fer sure - why don't we just wait and see?

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by HaHa:

No actually.. in real life you were dead which was punishment enough. IF you lived and you seemed to continously destroy the best planes you would definitely be demoted.

And of course, once your slumped ended and you killed enough enemy uberplanes, you'd be promoted BACK into the P-80 again, until such time as you lost it and were immediately demoted.  Repeat ad infinitum.

-- Todd/DMF

[StSanta]

I'm ready to give it a chance. Also pretty sure HTC will remove this feature is it proves to be unpopular, and then we have new SEA features coming along very nicely.

Imagine two 262's coming at hi speed towards a group of enemy buffs, opening up with those mean 30mm's.

BOOOM  



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[Greg 'wmutt' Cook]

As I read it now, I think is a very bad idea. So far though HTC has a great track record of improving both the gameplay and game mechanics of my favorite pastime.  
While I don't like what I see in this, I feel it is still some ways off, and I am willing to wait before I start soaking torches in pitch in preperation for the angry mob storming the castle scene.  
...Of course a lot will depend on how good I can get by 1.04 comes out   Guess I'll have to hit the training arena, and quit my job so I can fly 16+hrs a day  


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[BigJim]

OK here is my 2 cents on this, why not start the camp with like 5000 pts and set a point value on each and EVERY plane and instead of getting awards for kills etc etc you just lose that many points if your a/c goes down, ditches in enemy territory, etc.  When your point value is down to zero you only get the cheapest rides until next camp.  This way everyone gets to fly new planes but if ya lose one big point deduct, so in the long run you could be down to el cheapo's by end of the first week or at the very least not have enough points for the "uber" planes.  At least with this system no one is penalized from flying the new iron until they lose it themselves.

BigJim