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Offline BANZAI_SPARKS

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JP planes
« on: August 02, 2010, 12:33:46 PM »
There seems to really be a lack of JP planes in the game.Yet there are several models of P51 and P47.
here is my list.
KI43 oscar

KI44 Tojos  both versions

KI84-c Frank nice heavy hitter

J2m the Jack

I think you will find the Tojos and the Ki84c to be Good matches with some us and Gb planes

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Offline MachFly

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 01:59:45 PM »
It would be a good addition for special events, but for main arena remodeling AH1 planes should come first.  

Personally I would like to see the Ki-43  :devil  :bolt:
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 03:08:39 PM »
I personally have been wanting the Ki-44 Shoki (Tojo) for a long time.  It is my number one pick for an aircraft to be added to the game.  It is also my avatar.
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 05:05:16 PM »
my wishlist

Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 07:12:15 PM »
i like the so called SEA only aircraft and fly them alot in the MA and do well with them and built up a buttload of perks that i will never use killing temps and spits in a 109f4 or 190f8 or zeke lol. I say the more aircraft the better, bring em on.

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 07:05:01 AM »
There is a whole pile of Japanese aircraft that are lacking in AH.
As much as I would love to see them all I have to wonder if it is the lack of data preventing them from being added.

I've seen pyro's office, (Yes, its cool) and its stacked to the ceiling with books about aircraft.
But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?
So much of that was destroyed in the process of defeating the Japanese.

Granted we have some pilot accounts, but they do not give you weight, wing area, speed, or all the other numbers that to faithfully portray the plane must be "right" not just "fudged".

So while I would love to see a whole raft of Japanese planes added I'm not holding my breath.
I just don't think they have the sources they need to do them justice.

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2010, 08:00:07 AM »
There is a whole pile of Japanese aircraft that are lacking in AH.
As much as I would love to see them all I have to wonder if it is the lack of data preventing them from being added.

I've seen pyro's office, (Yes, its cool) and its stacked to the ceiling with books about aircraft.
But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?
So much of that was destroyed in the process of defeating the Japanese.

Granted we have some pilot accounts, but they do not give you weight, wing area, speed, or all the other numbers that to faithfully portray the plane must be "right" not just "fudged".

So while I would love to see a whole raft of Japanese planes added I'm not holding my breath.
I just don't think they have the sources they need to do them justice.


I agree. I would much rather have a limited, but accurately modeled planeset than one based on assumption and lack of factual research. Absolute data is crucial.
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2010, 09:38:47 AM »
What about test results of captured aircraft, or were the nature of the fighting in PTO so, that only few airworthy Japanese planes fell into the hands of the US?
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2010, 12:06:44 PM »
What about test results of captured aircraft, or were the nature of the fighting in PTO so, that only few airworthy Japanese planes fell into the hands of the US?
Not sure if they managed to get 1 of every plane to test?

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2010, 12:53:39 PM »
What lyric said, plus often planes that we did get had been shot down, crashed, or otherwise mangled.
How do you know that they got it put back to original stats?

Plus fuel tended to be different, which adds another whole layer of complexity to the mess.


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Re: JP planes
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2010, 01:05:50 PM »
I'm on the other end, I'd like to have representation of them in one form or another. a middle ground of compromise from pilot accounts and what little info there is. Just leaving them out makes the Pac set bland for the Japanese.

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Re: JP planes
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2010, 05:39:44 PM »
But where do you get truly believable data for planes like the Ki-43,44,45 ?

I don't think that's even nearly the case.

There is "beliveable" data available. There are guys like Robert Mikesh and Rene Francillon. I know Francillons work is old and I'm sure has errors in it but it is overall rather reliable. Then there is Japanese originated literature available and TAIC-data and so on. I have some of this material and there are Japanese players who have more.

There was also a Ki-43 in WarBirds before Pyro and HT left. While the fidelity was quite what AH is today, I don't think that has much to do with the actual parameters that go into the model but more about the model itself.

If I had to guess I would say that the WWI aircraft are much much more difficult to research in this regard.
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2010, 07:43:33 PM »
my wishlist

Ki-43 "Oscar" 5919 built
G4M "Betty" 2446 built
D4Y "Judy" 2038 built
Ki-45 "Nick" 1701 built
Ki-44 "Tojo" 1225 built

The Ki-45 "Nick" is tops on my Jap wish list.  Can you imagine the confusion if you call an enemy "nick" sighting?  LOL!   :lol  The code names become very important.
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2010, 08:41:54 PM »
The Ki-45 "Nick" is tops on my Jap wish list.  Can you imagine the confusion if you call an enemy "nick" sighting?  LOL!   :lol  The code names become very important.

The icon will be KI45 and people would just call it such, for the most part.
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Re: JP planes
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2010, 09:33:00 PM »
Would love to see the Ki-43 especially for the special events. The Ki-44 I think would get some more time in the MA. I would surely fly it. I think the Ki-84Ib would be a better choice than the Ic, but I would take either one. Then the G4M is also badly needed for the special events. :aok

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