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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2010, 11:02:20 PM »
With the new town layout I now see no reason why we cant have the B29 and the nuke......  Just dont allow formations of nukes...
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2010, 05:42:58 PM »
you dont need a nook to drop a town  :huh you just need Ki-67s and you can almost get the whole thing in one pass
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2010, 06:10:49 PM »
I could see adding the nookie under certain conditions.  If a country is about to WIN TEH WAR, enable a nookie to drop on the strat.  Make it so you can't take the last base you need to win until said nookie has been dropped on the strats of the opposing countries.  Once the strats are nuked, the country that dropped em can take the last base or two to seal the deal. 

I can only imagine the fights that would be created when countries are trying to protect the strats from inbound nuclear equipped bombers. 

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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 06:36:06 PM »
what would they implement to make it so you can only nuke the strats? even if you still had to nuke them to win, you could just nook the bases you need then get the strats later
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Re: AIRPLANES AND VEHICLES
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 10:25:20 PM »
Thing about the B29 by the time you see it, it already passed you by dropped and it is in its way home.  Only way is if you actually it is coming with a 10 min head start and then maybe. It will be one of the hardest things to kill.  That's why.


Then they they will cause an increase in high alt fighter sorties. If its not worth the time to climb up and go hunting them, then clearly its not very dangeous.

The AH community seems very addaptable, as we use aircraft and GV's in ways they were never/rarely used and in ways we seem to have invented in some cases.
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Re: AIRPLANES AND VEHICLES
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 10:41:05 PM »
what would they implement to make it so you can only nuke the strats? even if you still had to nuke them to win, you could just nook the bases you need then get the strats later

Just make all enemy bases uncapturable until the nuke hits the strat.  Either that or make the nuke a dud (or a fizzle) if it's dropped anywhere other than the strat.  

I personally like option 2.  

EDIT:  Orrrrrr, after one country owns the 40% of both other countries' bases, the country trying to win the map MUST drop a nuke on both other countries' strats for the win.  Actually I like this method best.  The only issue with this one is that nukes wouldn't be enabled for use until the required parameters for the win have been reached.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2010, 11:06:26 PM »
you know I like option two as well, Im am still on the fence about it, but I think you are making very good points and ideas for something like this, and this also proves that there can be a civilized conversation about nooks in aces high  :salute
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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2010, 12:47:33 AM »
Everyone is all worried about the super fast mega bomber.  How often do you think the vast majority of players will take the time to get to high alt?  I figured we would have waves of B29's low level dive bombing then hamerheading, keeping both drones and coming back for second and third pass attempts.  Now that would be exciting to watch!   


Oh and on the nook subject, it would have to damage friendly planes and GV's as well just to make it a viable option....  Nuke the area then roll in, no drop a nuke on a town with 3 of your buddys in it and they live while the enemy dies.  Also flying threw the mushroom cloud should give your pilot long term side affects of radiation sickness.....
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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2010, 03:45:34 AM »
If we ever got the bomb in AHII & I kind of hope we don't. So for arguments sake lets say we have it. I think only the top ranking bomber from the previous month gets to use it one time in the next following month.

He gets one plane & one bomb & can only drop it on the mega strat system or HQ. Any other spot renders the bomb useless. If bomb is dropped & it successfully hits said targets the war is won by the top bombers country.

Irrespective of what the status is of that map at that time.

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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2010, 03:46:36 AM »
uh no way , if you fly through the cloud you get super powers or something, like the ability to think those silly P38's out of the sky
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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2010, 03:48:38 AM »
uh no way , if you fly through the cloud you get super powers or something, like the ability to think those silly P38's out of the sky
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2010, 03:55:19 AM »
nvm, im tired, smokeless and not very good at being funny
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Re: AIRPLANES AND VEHICLES
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2010, 08:30:34 AM »
If we ever got the bomb in AHII & I kind of hope we don't. So for arguments sake lets say we have it. I think only the top ranking bomber from the previous month gets to use it one time in the next following month.

He gets one plane & one bomb & can only drop it on the mega strat system or HQ. Any other spot renders the bomb useless. If bomb is dropped & it successfully hits said targets the war is won by the top bombers country.

Irrespective of what the status is of that map at that time.

OK Commence the flaming. :bolt:
A 2 week noob could hit the city from 50k using the MA bombsight calibration.

You're suggestion would do nothing but make the way people behave in the MA's worse. Consider what age group(s) would be most likely to want the privilege of dropping "deh kool nook".




Since no one brought it up yet...just imagine a large "mishun" of B-29s carrying the max payload, coming in at 5000-10000 feet, and ENY for your side is high enough you and your buds can't grab anything fast enough or with enough cannons to make a difference. Even if ENY isn't a factor, all it would take is 1 formation of B-29s to level a base. The whining in the forums is bad enough, let a few bases get rolled by B-29stukas and watch the fireworks.
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Re: AIRPLANES AND VEHICLES
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2010, 09:44:21 AM »
As slow as the maps are moving since all of the changes maybe this is whats needed then?  Im speaking from not just a LW standpoint.  Maps are taking 3-4 days to change in MW when they used to change 2-3 times a day.  I was never a fan of base rolling per say but the same ole map day after day is just getting to be very old.  I know the larger maps in LW are moving much slower now, not sure about the smaller maps. 
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Re: AIRPLANES AND VEHICLES
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2010, 06:32:10 PM »
I personally like the time its taking for maps to roll over, at least untill it reaches the point where the fighting becomes stagnant.




And, IMO, the nuke gets a giant 'hell no you tard'. I'm fine with the bomber, just so long as people can take either max ord or max fuel/defensive armament, not both. Oh, and only have them enabled at 1/15 of the bases, scatered evenly through out the map.
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