Author Topic: Decisions( ATi Radeon 64mb or Gforce Pro/ultra) (Read 739 times)

bashwolf · « **on:** May 28, 2001, 11:05:00 PM »

Hiya all,

I been looking at Geforce2 mostly at Pro 64mb DDR but a few times I found ATI Radeon 64mb DDR all at Ebay.com. The more I shop the more I am getting confused between the two. I know that Gforce Ultra 64mb kicks Radeon butt in most of the tests. I saw Radeon for 180 bucks plus shipping and Gforce 2 Pro 64mb for same price. I like you guys to give me your input of these 2 cards. If you have it give me some first hand experience with these 2.

Thank You

Bash

Fishu · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2001, 11:49:00 PM »

Radeons has superb 2D graphics.. but drivers lets something to hope for.

GF2 is trusty mediocre card, while radeon goes from poor to superb depending on the game and driver version.

SKurj · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2001, 05:50:00 PM »

Wait Bash, see if GF2 pro's price falls more now that GF3's are becoming more and more available.

Salvo

bashwolf · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2001, 06:54:00 PM »

Thx guys,

hmm the waiting part sounds good too

Bash

Fishu · « **Reply #4 on:** May 29, 2001, 11:36:00 PM »

If you're going to wait, then you're going to wait for a long time...
Since when GF2 drops enough, its already slow... then you're waiting for GF3 to come cheap enough, which also goes too old by the time you make up your mind

Eagler · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2001, 10:11:00 AM »

here's my two cents:
Sony 19" trinitron running 1280 x whatever res 85 - vsync on, FAA off, 300 watt PS, Directx8.0a, 32 bit in AH - settings both 5500 and ultra(7.78 drivers - thx Wardog)

Just switched from a voodoo 5500 to the Leadtek geforce2 ultra 64mb card. Gained FR (from a solid 42 to around 60) but I have to say the overall image was better with the voodoo, especially on the desktop. Would like to lower screen to 1024 x768 and turn on anti aliasing on but the text is blurry at the lower resolution.
At work here I have the 32mb ATI All in Wonder Radeon with the Tv tuner. Though I can't play from work sitting on runway gives me around 32 fps. The ATI has a much better desktop (sharper/crisper icons, easier read) than does the Geforce, maybe better than the voodoo but not as high fps. In AH, the voodoo had a brighter picture. Both the ATI and Geforce are much darker. Night fighting was not a problem with the voodoo 5500 but is extremely difficult with the geforce. Same goes for the storm fronts. Wasn't an issue with 5500 but with the ultra, very hard to see icons. Don't know if AH has changed anything on their side that would account for any of these visual changes. Don't get me wrong, the geforce is a great card - just don't know if it's $285 better than my voodoo 5500 er my son's voodoo 5500 now

Eagler

Vermillion · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2001, 11:57:00 AM »

Well I don't have a high end GeForce2 to compare it against, but I just bought the budget version of the ATI Radeon card, the Radeon LE 32meg DDR card for $80.

Now realize that the pure Radeon 32meg DDR card will be about 10%-15% faster, and the 64 meg DDR version even a little faster (at $180 this is a hell of a buy IMO).

But on a 1.3Ghz Tbird machine, with my Radeon LE, In normal flight in the La7 (lots of polys in the cockpit) I am getting between 88-91 fps in normal forward view at normal flying altitudes (SeaLevel-15k).

And the picture quality with the ATI Radeon is quite a bit better than the GeForce 256 that I had to replace.

Just my experience so far.

Only you can decide.

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure

Fishu · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2001, 12:19:00 PM »

Some opinions about picture quality and then other facts: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20194

bashwolf · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2001, 11:45:00 PM »

Ok my patient has goen tow ait so I went ahead n bought Radeon 64mb Vivo DDR for $175 shipping paid by the seller

Stay tuned for my results

What i have know Specs:

PIII850
256mb of RAM
Live value sound card
win98
tnt2 Ultra 32mb (soon be above video card)

I will test this on my newly bough Tribes2 and AH game. Btw this particalur comes with 183 MHZ rather than usual 166mhz acccroding to the seller we will see about that. Oh guide me to right direction for tweaking and best drivers

Bash ( Thx all for your inputs)

SKurj · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2001, 06:20:00 AM »

For tweaking, I always start at www.tweak3d.net

Salvo

Fishu · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »

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Originally posted by bashwolf:
I will test this on my newly bough Tribes2 and AH game. Btw this particalur comes with 183 MHZ rather than usual 166mhz acccroding to the seller we will see about that. Oh guide me to right direction for tweaking and best drivers

Bash ( Thx all for your inputs)

I'd say the seller doesnt know what he talks, hes trying to make you buy it with white lies or you were buying an OEM/Bulk version and the seller gave retail instead.

OEM (US?)/Bulk (europe?) runs at 166mhz and has usually 6ns memory (I have bulk, 166mhz, but 5.5ns memory and theres always tweakers for making it worth the retail version)

Retail version has 5.5ns (even stories about 5ns versions) memory running at 183mhz.