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Offline Fishu

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« on: March 22, 2001, 09:19:00 AM »
Okey, I did finally receive ATI Radeon 64mb VIVO card, which replaced older Diamond V770 TNT2.
CPU is Celeron 566@850, on Abit BE-6 MB.

At first I had troubles with drivers, since im using DX8 and I installed drivers first from a driver CD supplied with the card and windows desktop resolution went to some strange resolution and with 90hz, my monitor rejected it and was blank.
Obviously old drivers on the CD like I thought, but more surprisingly didn't support DX8 when those were probably written for DX7.
I had to boot up in safe mode, set monitor refresh rate to adapter default and after reboot (was 640x480 res with 16 or 256 bit colors    ) install newest official drivers that I had luckily downloaded two days ago, so I didn't have to struggle to download those anymore.
After that, things were smooth.

Picture quality is better than with TNT2.
T&L also made lightning far better in B-17 II and some lightning changes in AH.
With TNT2 in tower was 43 FPS, with Radeon it is 75 FPS.

In 3D mark 2001, I had forgot normal clocks to CPU and FPS was just pathetic 16, then booted and set CPU at 850mhz and FPS got up to ~40 FPS. (wow, totally different than with TNT2, where it was around 19 FPS)

3D mark raised from 1234 pts to ~2400 pts.

In AH, with 2x FSAA, I got around 30 FPS and with 4x FSAA, below 25 FPS. (Hardly more)
Though, 2x FSAA seems fairly sufficient.

So far im happy with this, if forgets those driver struggles.
I find it funny that I didn't have problems between DX7/DX8 with different TNT2 driver versions, but Radeon has.

3D Mark comparison between ATI Radeon and TNT2 (Needs more tweaking with Radeon): http://gamershq.madonion.com/products/orb/?publish_compare.shtml?&project_type=6&dprid=459463

[This message has been edited by Fishu (edited 03-22-2001).]

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2001, 09:44:00 AM »
Ops.. forgot to mention that flying in the smoke is easy now.
At least above 20 FPS even over totally smoked field, with maybe some very fast spikes down to 14 (only seen once, but didnt even feel effect of it.. so quickly passed)
through single smoke, its at least 40 FPS.

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2001, 10:26:00 AM »
It is very easy to write video drivers that will work for DX7 and not DX8 and vice-versa.

Unlike the upgrades from DX5, DX6, and DX7,...DX8 has a lot of changes that can cause compatibility issues with video drivers.
Some are pretty innocuous and will only show up as tell-tale signs of memory leaks.  The longer you run the worse it gets.
That is why I have been stressing to check and see if the video drivers are DX8 certified before you actually upgrade to DX8.
A lot of the DX8 changes were/are related to initialization, where the sizes and elements of structures have changed.  Error codes were also augmented to reflect the new features.
All these changes were added to facilitate the support for new hardware features in the latest generation of video cards, which is a good thing.

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2001, 11:57:00 AM »
Fishu, the new drivers (7075) are out and are DX8 specific.  www.ati.com

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2001, 11:58:00 AM »
Heh nevermind, just saw Whels' post.

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
I am using 7089 drivers  

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »
Ran out to get the 7089 drivers, and see they released the 7097 beta yesterday ( http://www.ammoburners.com/3dxtreme/ati.php ), will post if there are any bugs.

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2001, 07:18:00 PM »
Got them installed and made up 100pts more in 3d mark 2001.
FPS in every frame rate test was better by ~10% and point sprite benchmark did work with Hardware T&L.

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2001, 07:20:00 AM »
S!

 Also using Radeon 64MB VIVO.Another goodie for it is the RadeonTweaker(or similar name) v4.3 found at www.rage3d.com   I use it and has a lot of different options to fiddle with.Disabled V-Sync and got a whopping 226FPS in cockpit looking straight up,settings 1024x748 32-bit with farthest visible terrain(Shift+F1).Normal is well above 50FPS in general.




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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »
7099 drivers are out.  www.rage3d.com  had a dead link, but www.radeunderground.com  has them up.

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2001, 04:13:00 AM »
FYI: it looks like 7093 are the fastest of the latest lot - 7093/97/99... I'm just browsing - it's "in constraint" here in the UK, my suppliers have no idea where they'll become available

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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2001, 05:29:00 AM »
for me 7099 seems best, maybe a minor drop (i really mean just a minor if at all), but card is working more flawlessly.