Mobile 88mm flak

[321BAR]

Aircraft could strafe it and kill it easy, doesnt warrant a perk price.

It would be deadly against tanks though.

the second part is why id perk it. that and itd kill lancs easily with one well placed shot

[Nemisis]

hey guys. this would be a great addition as long as flak shells MUST be time fused for distance and you must calculate it out. AP shells maybe... thatd be a painful addition and this thing should need a perk

Are you serious? A .45 could turret that thing (in all seriousnes, it probably COULD turret this). A D3A should be able to kill the crew with 1 sec burst. You need to factor in how easily this thing would be turreted or outright killed, not just how powerful its gun is or how fast it is. Any sort of HE weapon (20mm +) will turret this thing like it was a field gun.

I agree with Ack-Ack that this would be used in ways it wasn't origionally intended. I would use it to shell towns, kill pesky bomb****s from the saftey of the base's auto ack, and as a mobile AT gun.

[jamdive]

I agree with Ack-Ack that this would be used in ways it wasn't origionally intended. I would use it to shell towns, kill pesky bombers from the saftey of the base's auto ack, and as a mobile AT gun.

lol, this was one of the most versitile guns the germans had, and arguably the best in ww2. They used it on everything and/or every one. Tank killing, bunker busting, infantry support, AA, you name it. So as far as an un-intended use, I guess you could plant flowers in it.

[lyric1]

lol, this was one of the most versitile guns the germans had, and arguably the best in ww2. They used it on everything and/or every one. Tank killing, bunker busting, infantry support, AA, you name it. So as far as an un-intended use, I guess you could plant flowers in it.

  CV killer would be fun.

[Avanti]

lol, this was one of the most versitile guns the germans had, and arguably the best in ww2. They used it on everything and/or every one. Tank killing, bunker busting, infantry support, AA, you name it. So as far as an un-intended use, I guess you could plant flowers in it.

I had forgotten about this, my great uncle was telling me how he he had these used on him....

+1 for the 88mm

[Ack-Ack]

I agree with Ack-Ack that this would be used in ways it wasn't origionally intended. I would use it to shell towns, kill pesky bombers from the saftey of the base's auto ack, and as a mobile AT gun.

I never said that.  I said I could see this being used as a mobile AA vehicle, mobile direct artillery vehicle and a mobile anti-tank gun.  Which believe it or not, was the intended use of the Grille 10 88mm Flak 41.  However, it is a rather moot point since none of the Grille 10s made it beyong the prototype stage, with only a single prototype seeing action in Italy where it was sent to be evaluated under combat conditions.




ack-ack

[321BAR]

Are you serious? A .45 could turret that thing (in all seriousnes, it probably COULD turret this). A D3A should be able to kill the crew with 1 sec burst. You need to factor in how easily this thing would be turreted or outright killed, not just how powerful its gun is or how fast it is. Any sort of HE weapon (20mm +) will turret this thing like it was a field gun.

I agree with Ack-Ack that this would be used in ways it wasn't origionally intended. I would use it to shell towns, kill pesky bombers from the saftey of the base's auto ack, and as a mobile AT gun.

nemesis im getting tired of these arguments... yes a .45 can turret it after a few placed shots but if that 88 nails your bomber that is 15k feet in the air im pretty sure the 88 is a good weapon to have... the AP aspect would kill most tanks in one or two shots and if driven to a hilltop could kill as well as a tiger could and add the AA possibility and you have an unarmored tiger basically which kills A/C as much as GVs... hmm... PERK

I never said that.  I said I could see this being used as a mobile AA vehicle, mobile direct artillery vehicle and a mobile anti-tank gun.  Which believe it or not, was the intended use of the Grille 10 88mm Flak 41.  However, it is a rather moot point since none of the Grille 10s made it beyong the prototype stage, with only a single prototype seeing action in Italy where it was sent to be evaluated under combat conditions.

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ack-ack

do you know of any mobile 88s that were used in combat? and even then stat 88 on a base for AA and AT would be painful still

[Nemisis]

So your saying that you want a perked tiger that can be knocked out by an M8 at long range? And what is the traverse rate of this gun? 2 A/C approach from different angles = turret damaged.

[321BAR]

So your saying that you want a perked tiger that can be knocked out by an M8 at long range? And what is the traverse rate of this gun? 2 A/C approach from different angles = turret damaged.

ever think of using tactics? and SA for once dude? im starting to think you just like arguing... you wouldnt use this unit without smaller AA units such as whirbles and Ostis. and since when does it HAVE to have the 30 perks of a tiger? you can easily put a 10 perk price on this

Edit: by the way... this wont even be implemented into the game. but they can put other 88 installations in nemesis, not just this.

[Nemisis]

Lol, I think your overestimating the tactical prowess of some of our players. Some will have wirbs and osties along no doubt, but a good many will think that with the puffy AA, they have nothing to worry about.


And I place survivability very high on the list of importance. If it can be killed by an M8 at 2000yds, then, IMO, it doesn't need even a perk price of 10, maybe a base price of 4 or 5 at most.

[321BAR]

Lol, I think your overestimating the tactical prowess of some of our players. Some will have wirbs and osties along no doubt, but a good many will think that with the puffy AA, they have nothing to worry about.


And I place survivability very high on the list of importance. If it can be killed by an M8 at 2000yds, then, IMO, it doesn't need even a perk price of 10, maybe a base price of 4 or 5 at most.

it has the armor of a whirble and the gun of a tiger... hmm...

[Nemisis]

ok, ok... disabled by an M8 at 2000yds. I still think that (hypotheticly speaking of course) this would be upped by a single guy thinking he'll do some quick damage, and scoot back to base before anyone ups a tank.

[321BAR]

ok, ok... disabled by an M8 at 2000yds. I still think that (hypotheticly speaking of course) this would be upped by a single guy thinking he'll do some quick damage, and scoot back to base before anyone ups a tank.

so youre saying the guy is the same noob who thinks that constantly upping fireflies at a base where a tiger is killing him over and over again before he can shoot? cuz i remember that guy... he wasnt too smart to stand in front of my gun 9 times

[Nemisis]

IDK, if he is then he must be rook, which means I don't kill him. Most of the guys I bump into either quit after  5 deaths without getting a kill go get eggs, or scream for Dr7, 0nline or some other tanker who is better than the guys defending.

[jamdive]

ok, ok... disabled by an M8 at 2000yds. I still think that (hypotheticly speaking of course) this would be upped by a single guy thinking he'll do some quick damage, and scoot back to base before anyone ups a tank.

 

I dont think an m8 has enough power to even tow an 88. lol