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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2010, 07:34:08 AM »
I agree with Ackack, where did you get the opinion then neither of the 2 halftracks would be capable of towing an 88?

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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2010, 02:24:14 PM »
OK, well what I said isn't entirely true. I've read that the SdKfz 251 could tow the '88 but at not fast enough to keep up with the panzers. Not really an effective way to keep the AA guns up near the front.

For the M3, I remembered reading its engine was only around 90 HP, compared to its actual 147. The squad and i were taking about the vickers 6ton tank, so I probably pulled the 90hp from that conversation. Sorry about that.
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2010, 02:29:41 PM »
     Think the only AAA guns "up near the front" were alot smaller than 88mm.
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2010, 02:34:58 PM »
Yes, actually up at the front, asside from any guns stuck in a blockhouse for AT work. But you need something bigger than a 37mm to hit B-24's flying at 15k, trying to smash up your supply depot 5miles back of the lines. Won't do you much good if all the large AA guns are 30 miles back, and some bomber come by over head.
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2010, 03:53:25 PM »
OK, well what I said isn't entirely true. I've read that the SdKfz 251 could tow the '88 but at not fast enough to keep up with the panzers. Not really an effective way to keep the AA guns up near the front.

For the M3, I remembered reading its engine was only around 90 HP, compared to its actual 147. The squad and i were taking about the vickers 6ton tank, so I probably pulled the 90hp from that conversation. Sorry about that.

What you said isn't true at all.  Whatever sources you used to come to this conclusion were wrong.

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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2010, 06:36:42 PM »
OK, thanks for straitening me out. Any recomended sites for research?
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2010, 07:14:00 PM »
Never mind.
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2010, 07:44:36 PM »
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HTC could you get me this thing to use on airjer?
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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2010, 08:08:00 PM »
What you said isn't true at all.  Whatever sources you used to come to this conclusion were wrong.

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Re: Mobile 88mm flak
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2010, 08:08:59 PM »
I had forgotten about this, my great uncle was telling me how he he had these used on him....

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This is one of the stories my grandfather spoke of in WWII.  

My grandfather was a jeep jockey for an arty unit in WWII and shuttled stuff between the arty units and the front lines "hundreds of times".  One particular trip to the front a major he was driving told him to "cut through that area on this route".   Grandpa had been ordered to stay out of there because it was not fully cleared and secured yet, but the major insisted and ordered grandpa to drive anyways because it was shorter.  A few miles down the route and the road came alive from 88' fire.  Grandpa claimed no one had ever taken the jeep to that level of performance previously, he went in and out of ditches, plowed into trees, went slalom, and airborne a few times weaving in and out of obstacles and through the ditches back onto the road.  He was showered with gravel and twigs and other debris for a "half mile or so".  Once clear of the fire, that was the only time he disrespected an officer and told him how he felt.  The major was not a happy camper either and actually apologized and gave praise to Tech Sgt Robert Bennett.
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