Before-Strategy, Tactics, Stealth, and Planning Now-The Horde

[Ack-Ack]

People still whining about the NOE changes?  Sheesh...I guess some just can't adapt and insist HiTech make it easier for them.  No offense but I'm sure all you limp wrists whining about the NOE changes will take offense but maybe this game isn't just for you types.


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[sky25]

Lusch,

Eventualy everyone complaining uses the operant language concerning what they really want in this issue if they are not careful. You are just better at manipulating the syntactical constructs to hopefully emotionaly appeal to your audience via presenting a structural argument extoling your enjoyment of the feature: holes in the radar and a higher minimum to hide under. He goofed and spoke the RAW truth instead of cloaking it in imagery calculated to draw sympathy to his cause.

Why won't you just ask HiTech in direct wording, then accept his answer: HiTech please put back the radar holes and raise the minimum.

Bustr

"operant language", synatical contructs", "structural arguments", cloaking imagery" Are you trying to impress everyone with your mastery of the Kings English? Using my own 12th grade, Virginia hillbilly English I have to say "Bull Crap"( prefer to use the other version of this saying). If you had taken the time to read the post you would have noticed that I started this thread for the soul purpose of finding out what other players think of the new changes. Good or bad.. Most everyone that responded actually did that and they used good old American English to do it. If I ever need to learn how to impress people with my writing skills, I will call you first...

[Lusche]

People still whining about the NOE changes? 

No they are not. Because the horde NOE guys finally noticed that it basically still works, and you can quite easily work around the 65 ft limit.

[bustr]

Madkow,

Every day I'm seeing more multi boxes of buffs at 15k making the rounds of front line knights feilds hitting radar, VH, troops and ord as they do a wide swing through our territory. Half the time we are blind and have no clue how many attackers are on their way in along the front. I've seen a few smart NOE raids take advantage of the confusion because the radar was down in several sectors. Granted the buffs get killed eventualy but, lots of knights are falling in flames at the same time. It's not a one sided fighter furball war by any strech. The buff pilots just got sloppy flying in the bush's for the past few years and are relearning how to fight with a buff.

I think 3 boxes of buffs can take down most of a town in one pass. After that, being as good at Jabo as you are a furballer seems to be the new multitasking skillset. 5 boxes against a feild, 2 for the VH, ords and FH. 3 for the town. Then the Jabo and GV clean it up. Sounds like a mission formula. POTW proved last night if 20 fighters came in above 15k and pushed all the cons down at a feild, 12k and up was wide open to a hoard to hit a base. I've been wondering when the JSO squad generals will use airpower one night a week to take feilds like they did in AH1.

HiTech has never promised he would make this easy. I hear WoW is recruiting.

[kvuo75]

Because the enemy doesn't play that way with you. Even if you get rid of all the ack guns, it's usually not tanks that meet you there to "slug it out". It's a rain of bombs and a stream of 37mm AP projectiles from il's that take you out

The town could be a great place to fight in.. if there the next airstrip was 10 minutes away, not 10 seconds 

it's always been bombs that take out tanks... it was only 37mm's when the new gun package was introduced.. remember? Before that you REALLY needed to work the 23mm on the IL2, or be one of the weirdo's that could aim from a b25.

Oh those hordes of panzers were caught off guard that first day we had the 37 in the IL2.. they thought they had the base just by porking ords and sending a horde of panzers. then they sent wirbles, and the t34-85's met them! LOL.

however, they adapted, and still ended up taking bases and making the game a routine.

the new radar changes, the new towns, people are adapting, changing tactics. I think I've seen more hording, but I think it's confirmation bias.

people will probably find their new routines, and hopefully htc will change em up right at the right time in the future..

[Madkow]

Can we have that in English please Bustr. I'm happy with the new changes. Also I'm a bit lost with the WoW reference. Didn't we just beat POW in SDL without even losing a plane?

[Lusche]

it's always been bombs that take out tanks... it was only 37mm's when the new gun package was introduced.. remember? Before that you REALLY needed to work the 23mm on the IL2, or be one of the weirdo's that could aim from a b25.

Just to make clear, I'm to complaining about that. It was an answer to the expectation that we will now see great tank battles in the towns instead at the Vbases... which his quite unlikely. Will happen, but rarely.

[Delirium]

Game play has definitely changed... I'm hesitant to ask for changes since the time period since the changes has been so brief.

I've noticed much more dog-fighting but that tends to degenerate into a massive red and green pick-fest, so many tend to fly higher and in faster planes with a lower ENY value. I'm curious to see Lusche/Snailmain's charts is this is really true or just my viewpoint.

[kvuo75]

Just to make clear, I'm to complaining about that. It was an answer to the expectation that we will now see great tank battles in the towns instead at the Vbases... which his quite unlikely. Will happen, but rarely.

fair enough.. I think the ack shouldn't have been added back either, if we want tank action.

auto-ack free towns!

[Lusche]

Game play has definitely changed... I'm hesitant to ask for changes since the time period since the changes has been so brief.

I've noticed much more dog-fighting but that tends to degenerate into nothing but a massive red and green pick-fest, so many tend to fly higher and in faster planes with a lower ENY value. I'm curious to see Lusche/Snailmain's charts is this is really true or just my viewpoint.

Maybe at the end of this tour, but I think any potential change in plane usage will be too subtle. It's a different story with tanks.

[Sperky]

LOL...yeah, but before I didnt need a tomtom in my tank to find my way around the town.

how did you become familiar with the previous town layout?  Couldn't you use the same method to learn the new layout or is it too complicated?   

[jamdive]

how did you become familiar with the previous town layout?  Couldn't you use the same method to learn the new layout or is it too complicated?   

Its to complitcated.

[Sperky]

I'd be willing to bet that it's just unfamiliar.  Took me forever to learn the layout of the medium and large base layouts- now they have a new look and I'm learning all over again. 

[Lusche]

Its to complitcated.

I think that's the fun part... for me, town and base layouts could change more often... keeps things interesting

[jamdive]

I think that's the fun part... for me, town and base layouts could change more often... keeps things interesting

Well put it this way, if you actually make it to the town in a gv without an IL2 knocking your turret out, or some guy upping a formation of lancs and dive bombing you, or a spitty tracking your tiger (ect.) the last thing I want to do is sight see.