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Offline Delirium

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2010, 06:28:54 PM »
Has anyone tried running AH in an XP compatibility mode?

Quote from: Skuzzy on August 13, 2010, 04:26:03 PM
Folks, how many of you, who are crashing, are using the default sound driver from Microsoft?  You can see in the DXDIAG output.

I am not using the default sound driver, I downloaded the updated one from Creative (without all the bloated software).
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2010, 06:29:53 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on August 13, 2010, 06:28:54 PM
Has anyone tried running AH in an XP compatibility mode?

I am not using the default sound driver, I downloaded the updated one from Creative (without all the bloated software).

i do del, XP SP3 mode on my win 7 64 bit
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2010, 08:57:22 PM »
Skuzzy, I've tried compatibility mode myself, no luck.

I've tried putting in a different vid card (went from 200 to 400 series by Nividia), no luck.

I've tried putting in different amounts of ram, no luck.

When you are about to crash, you'll see strange patches on the ground like this.





The mountains will literally move around, I had one plop itself over the enemy airfield and over the town and tended to follow me around. It wasn't solid, I could fly through it. I wanted to do more testing, but I eventually CTD. If you look at those screen shots, some of the trees are hovering above the ground since the raised ground isn't being displayed properly.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2010, 09:09:04 PM »
I ave windows7 64...no problems here...
I have windows autoupdater turned off..

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Time of this report: 7/12/2010, 19:09:28
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Offline rvflyer

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2010, 10:52:55 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on August 13, 2010, 08:57:22 PM
Skuzzy, I've tried compatibility mode myself, no luck.

I've tried putting in a different vid card (went from 200 to 400 series by Nividia), no luck.

I've tried putting in different amounts of ram, no luck.

When you are about to crash, you'll see strange patches on the ground like this.

(Image removed from quote.)

(Image removed from quote.)

The mountains will literally move around, I had one plop itself over the enemy airfield and over the town and tended to follow me around. It wasn't solid, I could fly through it. I wanted to do more testing, but I eventually CTD. If you look at those screen shots, some of the trees are hovering above the ground since the raised ground isn't being displayed properly.


xactley what I get. Sometimes looks like I am flying under terrain.

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Offline Tigger29

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2010, 11:18:00 PM »
I will add that I use Win7 64 bit, with an ATI 5830 and an Intel C2D (E7400) processor, and I just got done flying for several hours tonight after applying the windows updates this morning (and rebooted several times since for various reasons).. and I have had NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.

Even during FSO I was fine, while my squadmates were dropping (disco/appcrash/whatever) left and right.

We did have a lot of Vox sticking/cutting out issues though.
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Offline Delirium

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2010, 01:21:43 AM »
I reformatted my computer again, didn't do any updates and I'm still having the same problem.

Either its a hidden update in Windows, or its AH.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2010, 01:29:01 AM »
I have autoupdate enabled, installed all of the recent MS updates, and have Java installed.  I'm running Windows XP SP 3.  No problems here.
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Offline OOZ662

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2010, 02:42:46 AM »
In case it somehow aids the search, this system is not encountering crashes.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2010, 03:48:01 AM »
got the same sceens Del,
looks like Nvidea, Win7 64bit and have the Win7 updates on running into trouble. When putting all together it seems to me we have an issue with the update from this thuesday, i will deinstall this one and will see if it might be a 'quick' solution, after that i turn the update service from automatic to OFF

lets see if i get back my stable AH2 platform.
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Offline katanaso

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2010, 06:58:32 AM »
FWIW, my first crash started on the 10th, and I didn't do the Windows Updates until the 11th.

I also only crash in the current LW Blue Map.  I can play in the current LW Orange map without any issues.

I'm using Win 7 64-bit, but with an ATI 5850 card. 

However, I don't get the same graphics glitches before a crash.  The game just freezes.

Skuzzy, if you'd like, I can post screenshots of the various events in the Event Log.


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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2010, 07:17:00 AM »
I alos saw the white patches in graphics before one crash last night.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2010, 08:02:28 AM »
No problems here, windows 7 64 bit and I down loaded the newest patch. I dont have a nvidea card though.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2010, 09:44:17 AM »
Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit here, GeForce 250GTS, Realtek 5.1 digital sound chip, no java, auto updates off, only 1 lock up during scenario last Saturday:

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2010, 09:59:01 AM »
*Side Note*

Looking through those posted dxdiags, I see some huge paging files compared to mine - Page File: 729MB used, 5410MB available ...  :eek:

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I have a lot of services stopped, including bitlocker, automatic updates (windows update is on manual), home group provider, remote access, superfetch and some others.
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