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Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« on: August 13, 2010, 10:11:11 AM »
 I suspect the most recent Java update may be causing issues for many who are running WIN 7 64bit and Aces High.

  I began having the AH app crash Wednesday night. I dug into my system and discovered that a Java update earlier in the week had been flagged in Windows diagnostics. My AH application crashes began after the failed java update. The update was not listed in the add/remove programs list. I did see both 32bit and 64bit Java apps in there. I uninstalled Java at that point. Lo and behold, my AH crashes ceased.
I am not reinstalling Java on my primary machine again. I can't even remember what application I was running that required it.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 10:12:08 AM »
 Hmmm, wonder if ariansworld's DXDIAG reveals that he is also running WIN 7 64 bit?

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 10:36:59 AM »
I have had our Windows 7 64 bit system crash during a regular Windows update, just recently.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 11:40:26 AM »
I'm going to try and remove Java and see if it works for me.

I'm desperate, I volunteered to lead a scenario group every Saturday this month and to spend time in the TA. So far, I can't do either one effectively with this problem.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 12:30:44 PM »
Interesting, I have had a failed Java update also very recently. Im running XP, but still getting more than my usual amount of crashes. Will look into it. Thanks  :salute
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2010, 01:11:26 PM »
Hmmm, wonder if ariansworld's DXDIAG reveals that he is also running WIN 7 64 bit?

I am running vista ultimate 32 bit. Cant post a dxdiag untill I get home from work.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 01:22:28 PM »
It seems all of this started in the last 48 hours, or so.  How many of you allow the Windows auto-updater to run?

A Java update could cause it as the java install replaces serveral operating system files.

The DXDIAG data, for the system and video card would be helpful.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2010, 02:44:13 PM »
I keep the auto updater turned off.

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 02:49:09 PM »
I've tried the newest drivers on Nvidia's site in addition to the ones I am posting on my Dxdiag  now.

I formatted my machine Friday of last week.


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Time of this report: 8/13/2010, 15:47:38
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2010, 02:52:49 PM »
Also note, make sure you have the power settings to "High Performance" in the Windows control panel.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2010, 02:57:35 PM »
Mine is already set to high performance... I cannot find any Java installation on this machine, I don't remember installing it since I formatted last week.

I checked program list and program files, as well as any directories under IE or Firefox.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2010, 03:06:52 PM »
I do not think it has anything to do with Java itself.  I think the crash of the installation of Java is another side effect of the real problem.

Still chasing it.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2010, 03:07:56 PM »
I don't know if this helps any or not, but MS has released a huge batch of updates for XP, Vista AND Seven these last 48 hours.... maybe the updater has something to do with it all...

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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2010, 03:28:14 PM »
I know.  I too find it too much of a coinky-dink that a sudden surge of instability issues arise after/during a lot of updates released by Microsoft.

By the way folks, just because you did or do not run the auto-updater does not mean Microsoft did not update some portion of your computer without your knowledge.  They do that from time to time.

However, we are still chasing.
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Re: Common thread to folks now having crashes from AH???
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 03:37:51 PM »
Skuzz I've got mine turned off per your instructions should I be concerned?
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